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Spiderschwein    [27139.   Posted 14-Aug-2010 Sat 04:39] View Near Messages
RE: Bel Mooney and music that`s poisoning kids minds.

The 80s were innocent?!

This was the era of glam and big hair and "Girls, Girls, Girls," and groupies and cocaine-fuelled excess.

I am with her on the unnecessary flesh-baring though. I do think that a lot of it is just put in because the object is to shift some units and cover up for mediocre actual product. Then again I don`t buy it, so...

Spiderschwein    [27122.   Posted 11-Aug-2010 Wed 11:21] View Near Messages
RE: Dodgy Prosecutions to "have a go."

Well, in civil cases, if you bring a truly hopeless case that`s designed just to vex, you may end up with a wasted costs order against you if you`ve behaved "improperly, unreasonably, or negligently" and caused the opponent to incur unnecessary costs.

Isn`t there any equivalent provision in criminal cases?

Spiderschwein    [27078.   Posted 2-Aug-2010 Mon 04:09] View Near Messages
Hey peoples.

Do we have this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10830485

Now let`s not speak of Saudi or the UAE again before I start frothing about gender apartheid, the widespread use of slave labour (inc. to build the Burj Khalifa), and the endemnic racism and religious bigotry in those nations.

Spiderschwein    [27017.   Posted 15-Jul-2010 Thu 12:43] View Near Messages
RE: Eastenders.

Not to mention the child abuse lobby who want to keep everyone terrified of the nonce in their midst because that way they can gouge massive public donations.

Incidentally, it`s a total myth that homosexual relationships are "gentler" than hetero ones. The reason why you get fewer gays and lesbians reporting domestic violence are because there`s fewer of them, numerically. But it exists, and it`s every inch as nasty as hetero domestic violence.

Spiderschwein    [26929.   Posted 17-Jun-2010 Thu 13:02] View Near Messages
How about this for an OFCOM song?



Land of prudes and censors
Buggering TV
Getting suitably butt hurt
Over trivialities!

Can`t be having fannies
Dicks, tits or balls
Children might be watching
That prospect appalls!

Disallowing repeats
Because someone says, "fuck"
And if you want to beat you meat
You`re plump out of luck!



Your turn now!

Spiderschwein    [26923.   Posted 16-Jun-2010 Wed 14:05] View Near Messages
The problem I have with a lot of h/c is that it someone, somewhere, decided that this huge wobbling mass of flesh with overdone noises was the way forwards.

That, and the preponderance of plastic tits and bottle blondeness. Sorry. Redheads all down the line for me (because I am one, natch).

Spiderschwein    [26847.   Posted 24-May-2010 Mon 13:51] View Near Messages
The fact that waving one`s thrupenny bits about sells records is a constant annoyance to me, but that`s probably because I`d be too ugly to sell records like that. It is still an annoyance because it means the airwaves and internets are packed full of low- or no-talent dross that folks salivate over just because the auteur of said dross makes music videos with lots of gratuitous nudity. To be fair I don`t find Rihanna stunningly beautiful, she`s got an annoying face and a voice that sounds like a turkey on LSD.

Still if you`ve got it, make the most of it, because in 20 years` time the only thing these folks will have brought to its knees is their plastic-infused tits.

Right, I`m off to listen to The CNK, a very politically incorrect French industrial metal band.

EDIT: "Rudeboy is you big enough" is indeed more offensive than "like a virgin, touched for the very first time." At least Madonna understood the fundamentals of grammar.

Spiderschwein    [26844.   Posted 21-May-2010 Fri 13:02] View Near Messages
I think she`s on to something in a very oblique way, actually.

It`s not that they (Rihanna, Lady Gaga, et al) are singing about sex and thus making our youth do it incessantly like rabbits, but the sorts of other things they sing about. The idea that it`s better to be famous and popular than it is to actually do anything worthwhile and thus acquire fame. To be fair neither of them can really sing and neither need to be able to thanks to Autotune *spit* but that`s life.

I object to reality TV for similar reasons.

Unfortunately I`m just a lone voice in the pathetic and boring wilderness of celeb rags and suchlike.

I don`t want this stuff banned, I just find it pathetic and worse, boring. And I think it does have an effect on society its ethos that you are only as good as the attention you draw to yourself.

(And before anyone calls me a hypocrite for pushing thrash, death, black, and power metal, think about the ethos of all that - independence, self-reliance, bullshit detection, and, in the words of one excellent Bolt Thrower song, "No Guts, No Glory" - n`est ce pas?)

Spiderschwein    [26817.   Posted 11-May-2010 Tue 11:47] View Near Messages
Also, on the subject of Zoo, have we this:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/8863/

Spiderschwein    [26815.   Posted 10-May-2010 Mon 13:23] View Near Messages
@pbr

I said "Bollox Europe" you`ll find ;)

@emark

Yeah, Bizarre got a right shoulderchip about it. They set up a web forum for people to trade their tales of woe about how because they were different subculturally they were somehow noble and suffering. True, there were some cases that really left a nasty taste in the mouth, but a lot were just angstbucketing by whiny types who realised that they had to get into the real world and lose their shocking pink dye job in order to compete in the job market.

I used to have hair down to my lower back and a Viking-type beard when I was at University. However, I noted that law firms wouldn`t really want to take on someone who looked like he listed his hobbies as "rape and pillage, monastery-burning, and drinking mead" and as such I cut it all off. This I do not have a problem with. I still go to shows with all the alarming band shirts and bullet belts and stompy boots etc and nobody thinks I`ve "sold out" or anything.

I do find it a bit cloying that Bloodstock, the heavy metal festival near Lichfield, has had a "Sophie Lancaster Stage" from 2008 - present. Gnagh.

Though Lancaster`s ma gets points for not running to her local Martin Salter clone and demanding that Something Be Done.

Spiderschwein    [26808.   Posted 9-May-2010 Sun 06:12] View Near Messages
One for the "Bollox Europe" page if there is one:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/7694472/Death-metal-trainee-teacher-told-to-quit-gory-band-or-resign.html

I`ve heard Debauchery. They`re okay. Nothing special. Have a fixation with "Warhammer 40K" but aren`t as good as Bolt Thrower, another death metal band with 40K themed songs.

Spiderschwein    [26807.   Posted 9-May-2010 Sun 04:31] View Near Messages
Sergio, I`ve seen people actually read "Zoo" magazine with my own eyes. Usually they`re 15 year old sweaty-palmed teenage virgins. I used to borrow other chaps` copies of it when I was that age.

At University, I graduated to "Bizarre" but that stopped being about cool and weird stuff and started being another bore-ring vaguely alternative rag and then they got a shoulderchip over Sophie Lancaster and started covering themselves with victim politics. and demanding that we ban discrimination on the grounds of sub culture (no, seriously!)

Now I stick to "Private Eye." Kerrrrist, how dull am I.

Spiderschwein    [26790.   Posted 5-May-2010 Wed 12:04] View Near Messages
Gnagh, what`s wrong with Amy Pond? She`s no more scantily clad than Leela of the Sevateem (companion to the Fourth Doctor), who turned up wearing some artfully arranged tight leather and little else.

Also, I like the new series of Who, it`s awesome. Okay, "Victory of the Daleks" was a bit fanwanky, but "The Eleventh Hour" was hilarious and pretty solid, "The Beast Below" was brilliant with its Torment-like plot (Elizabeth X as an effectively immortal amnesiac etc), and I liked these recent Weeping Angel episodes quite a lot...

Thing is, the Weeping Angels are genuinely scary as well as being clever. They only move when you aren`t looking at them and creep up on you and snap your neck when you aren`t looking. That is a terrifying prospect. However, the reason they`re so scary is the same reason the Xenomorph in "Alien" was so scary - you don`t see them very much and the rest is up to your imagination. Surely this sort of bloodless, violenceless terror that`s only implied is a lot more family friendly than if it became a total gorefest?

Spiderschwein    [26711.   Posted 10-Apr-2010 Sat 09:01] View Near Messages
RE: Kick-Ass.

I am very, very, cross that this film has been allowed to go on general release. It`s the sort of thing that is ruining this country.

It was nowhere NEAR as politically incorrect as it had been made out to be.

Ugh.

Spiderschwein    [26701.   Posted 8-Apr-2010 Thu 11:34] View Near Messages
RE: Punternet, and Harrperson.

Probably old news but I found this report on Wikileaks:

http://mirror.infoboj.eu/wiki/leak/the-truth-behind-punternet.pdf

Anyone care to enlighten me as to what this is all about?

Spiderschwein    [26681.   Posted 2-Apr-2010 Fri 07:52] View Near Messages
Have we seen Christopher Tookey`s review of Kick-Ass?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html

What a bore. Does he really think that people are so weak-minded that they`ll try to copy anything they see on film? Gnagh.

Spiderschwein    [26642.   Posted 23-Mar-2010 Tue 14:00] View Near Messages
RE: Titchmarsh v. Woss.

Yes, they are more mature than Woss`s audience. Woss`s audience find "BUH I SHAGGED YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER" funny - which it is, if you`re 15.

Erm anyhow.

I`m off to play some Fallout 2 now. A lovely game, in which you can, if you so wish, smack a child in the groin with brass knucks (yes, really). But if you do that everyone will hate you (in the game) and your character will face consequences. Specifically, if you kill any children in Fallout 2 you find yourself being ambushed by bounty hunters with large guns at inopportune moments. Whereas if you`re generally nice to folks and you slap the bad guys and things, people like you.

How is this game promoting needless violence?

(I do find the way that the plasma cannon melts someone hilarious though... ooohh, nasty!)

Spiderschwein    [26622.   Posted 18-Mar-2010 Thu 12:30] View Near Messages
Speaking of trafficking, do we have this?

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/8324/

Spiderschwein    [26587.   Posted 11-Mar-2010 Thu 13:24] View Near Messages
RE: Sycophantic documentaries.

Isn`t it just part of Michael Crichton`s "PLM" or politico-legal-media complex? The politicians propose authoritarian knee-jerk nonsense to be seen to be Doing Something and stay in power, the lawyers need victims to stand up for and get juicy fees, and the media needs to terrify the shite out of people in order to make money - and all three branches regularly butter each other up.

Spiderschwein    [26574.   Posted 9-Mar-2010 Tue 13:02] View Near Messages
RE: Teenage boys are all sex crazed maniacs.

Reality check, people... ogling women (or men, if that`s your bag) is entirely healthy and normal. It livens up my daily trudge down the M4 to see, as I pull into my office car park in Middlesex, a tasty young woman sashaying along in a power suit and heels.

Of course, I don`t wind down the window and shout, "tits oot" because that`s crass (and wouldn`t succeed in getting her tits oot anyhow.) But I might start whistling the Leisure Suit Larry theme as I pull up next to Mr Foster`s Mercedes. And I don`t "accidentally" pinch her bum if she gets into the lift with me because that`s cruisin` for a slap and/or being fired for sexual harassment. But none of this is to say I wouldn`t idly wonder about said posterior.

And before you say anything about objectification of women and how it reduces them to targets for male lust... you`re wrong. Just because I find a work colleague tasty doesn`t mean I think she`s no good at her job or I think less of her as a person. I shouldn`t have to tell anyone here that I treat everyone I run across in my job with all respect due to them regardless of any sex, race, disability, sexual orientation, religion, age, etc. etc.

Humans have a ridiculously powerful sex drive. This is part of the human condition. But most humans are perfectly capable of controlling said urges all by themselves without the intervention of some Fleet Street arsewipe or Islingtonite policy wonk. The more we accept, as a society, that sexuality, both male and female, is part of life and not something that must be landed on with both feet whenever it rears its ugly head, I am convinced the stronger we`ll become.

Spiderschwein    [26483.   Posted 17-Feb-2010 Wed 14:07] View Near Messages
Hey all.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8520702.stm

Not that I approve of racism or white supremacy in any way, but my first thought on reading this was, "thought crime."

Spiderschwein    [26452.   Posted 5-Feb-2010 Fri 12:55] View Near Messages
Hey folks. Have we got this:

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/headlines/4886495.Church_continues_bid_to_stop_lap_dancing/

Spiderschwein    [26344.   Posted 20-Dec-2009 Sun 14:46] View Near Messages
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8417680.stm

Have we got this alarming development?

Spiderschwein    [26338.   Posted 18-Dec-2009 Fri 07:02] View Near Messages
I will not be buying the RATM single.

RATM annoy me by being frickin` Mercedes Marxists.

X Factor annoys me by being X Factor.

I`ll keep my money to myself kthxbai.

Spiderschwein    [26288.   Posted 28-Nov-2009 Sat 16:49] View Near Messages
Have we got this from Spiked at all?

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/reviewofbooks_article/7766/

Spiderschwein    [26280.   Posted 27-Nov-2009 Fri 13:24] View Near Messages
Phantom, green censorship does not surprise me. It`s been going on at the IPCC for years. It is well documented that authors and researchers whose findings do not gel with the "Summary for Policymakers" (which is what the politicians want to see) are smeared, downgraded in prominence in the reports, or simply hidden under the carpet. It is no surprise that in the Third Assessment Report, the "hockey stick" graph was thrown all over the place despite being scientifically questionable. Because this was what the politicians wanted to see.

Recommended reading - "Scared to Death," by Christopher Booker and Richard North, especially Chapter 14, "Saving the Planet."

Spiderschwein    [26226.   Posted 17-Nov-2009 Tue 05:26] View Near Messages
Cop a load o` this abuse industry woo, people:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8362951.stm

Spiderschwein    [26096.   Posted 13-Oct-2009 Tue 13:14] View Near Messages
Emark, Trafigura are pretty dodgy characters. When in 2008 they dumped a load of toxic waste on the Ivory Coast and made a lot of people ill, and the law firm Leigh Day & Co launched a class action against them on behalf of these Ivorians, they responded by suing the senior partner of said law firm for libel.

Spiderschwein    [26089.   Posted 12-Oct-2009 Mon 13:45] View Near Messages
Do we have this?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/6299944/Road-pricing-should-be-used-to-help-meet-carbon-targets.html

Note the bit about "road pricing." Black box road tracking has been proposed before like this.

I wonder if we ought to look carefully at the green movement because I can see it being used as an excuse to bring in a lot of nasty authoritarian measures in the future.

Spiderschwein    [26082.   Posted 10-Oct-2009 Sat 11:36] View Near Messages
Ian, I have no idea, but I`m going to think twice before driving through Hungerford with "Get a Gun, Shoot at Random" by The CNK playing on my car stereo.

Spiderschwein    [26075.   Posted 8-Oct-2009 Thu 14:51] View Near Messages
The biggest question I have about female ejaculation is this - where does it all come from, esp. those gigantic fountainous squirts that Cytherea and company get to?

On a different note, have we this article by Brendan O`Neill?

http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2009/10/criminal-minded-rappers-take-the-rap/

Spiderschwein    [26022.   Posted 1-Oct-2009 Thu 13:27] View Near Messages
Speaking of which, MichaelG, today`s Telegraph summed up pretty well why Labour have managed to alienate the electorate so much - they`ve spent so long campaigning to "their people" - Islingtonite champagne-socialist ivory tower snobs - that the majority of folks in this country have no interest in their policies and no reason to vote for them. What has NuLab to offer the common man? What did it ever have, other than, "at least we`re not Tories."

Spiderschwein    [26017.   Posted 30-Sep-2009 Wed 13:43] View Near Messages
Harrperson`s got a cheek for trashing George Osborne for being a toff. Did she not go to a very expensive public school herself? Is she not descended from the nobility? Well then.

Here`s to hoping that Ahhnold`s reply to Harrperson is something along the lines of "fuck you, asshole."

Spiderschwein    [25999.   Posted 29-Sep-2009 Tue 12:05] View Near Messages
Oh, and sorry to double post, but yes, Phantom, she has a PR background. According to their website:

"Vivienne, previously an Account Director at Midas Public Relations, will be building on the work of her predecessors and providing an independent voice for those concerned about taste and decency issues. "

Spiderschwein    [25998.   Posted 29-Sep-2009 Tue 12:03] View Near Messages
Hey Panglossian.

Well... yes, I kinda agree about this new MediaWatch person. I`ve long maintained that the more severe and strait laced people are in public, the more UTTERLY FILTHY and BRUTAL and DEPRAVED they are in the bedroom.

This is why I think accountancy porn would be a serious hot seller.

Wouldn`t surprise me if the sort of stuff that she gets off on is impossible without a live chicken and a rabbi.

Spiderschwein    [25966.   Posted 23-Sep-2009 Wed 01:57] View Near Messages
Lily Allen... ugh.

I can`t help but feel she`s coming out on this issue to try and get her squashy, talentless mush into the papers once again.



There`s just one thing that`s getting in the way
We don`t want to hear your crap, it`s very much the same
As what the labels and their PR men have told ya
And then you make these noises that make us think "give over!"

Spiderschwein    [25963.   Posted 22-Sep-2009 Tue 16:40] View Near Messages
Here`s an interesting model - "Death to Music." This is set up by James Fogarty, formerly known as Jaldaboath of the Meads of Asphodel. He and his mates` bands then upload all their stuff to the website for free and just have a PayPal link in the corner.

And yes, Shaun, because of file sharing, I got into stuff that I would not otherwise have had access to and have bought it, seen them on tour when I could, and so forth.

I dispute that talented people always make it. Have a listen to Lazarus A.D. and their debut album, "The Onslaught," which came out this year. It is thoroughly ace beyond belief. Unfortunately I have a sinking feeling that rather than becoming the next big thing that will bring thrash screaming and flailing into the 21st century public eye, which is what they deserve, they`ll stay stuck in the Wisconsin commuter belt town that spawned them.

Spiderschwein    [25927.   Posted 12-Sep-2009 Sat 10:26] View Near Messages
I know it`s a bit old, but CAAN`s newsletter that came out today mention this Register article about a possible Dangerous Writing Act:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/06/dangerous_writings_endangered/

In related news, CAAN are hosting a competition to produce extreme pornographic stories. They must include ultra-violence in a sexual context and be at least as extreme as "Girls Scream Aloud."

Spiderschwein    [25899.   Posted 7-Sep-2009 Mon 11:55] View Near Messages
Folks, it`s times like this that I begin to think whether the real villains of the piece are the politicians, unscrupulous lawyers, and media types, along with the IWF, NSPCC, Save the Children, and so forth, all of whom have a commercial interest in keeping people terrified of child abuse so they can make money and/or gain power and influence off the back of it all.

Who remembers Satanic Ritual Abuse? That was all made up, but a lot of politicians, lawyers, and media folks made LOADSAMONEY wrangling over it and smeared those who cried foul as being probably in league with the nonces anyhow.

Spiderschwein    [25891.   Posted 4-Sep-2009 Fri 13:10] View Near Messages
Hey Teddy,

I don`t post much here any more, but it wouldn`t surprise me.

Wouldn`t surprise me if people used it to settle grudges as well, denouncing anyone they disapproved of on what could well be a new "crimen exceptum." I remember reading an article in a US newspaper about how someone was ratted out for "distributing obscenity to a minor" back in 1999 because the minor in question`s parents didn`t like him much. (The obscenity, incidentally, was an issue of the long-running indie comic "ElfQuest" which contained some minor nudity - the perp was a comic store owner).

I still firmly await the abuse industry to get their hands on all this.

Spiderschwein    [25825.   Posted 18-Aug-2009 Tue 08:57] View Near Messages
Re: Baader Meinhof Complex and child nudity therein.

Oh eck. I`ve just realised... I`ve been looking at Vietnam War photos again, including that one with the girl running down the road naked as bombs go off in the background.

I think I might accidentally be a nonce.

Re: Italian blogger registration.

This seriously bites. Annoyingly, it might give rise to international chilling effects by dint of forum shopping; someone who you annoy could sue you in the Italian courts claiming that since it`s readable in Italy, the Italian courts have jurisdiction (which is the same argument used in libel tourism in the UK).

Spiderschwein    [25784.   Posted 5-Aug-2009 Wed 12:47] View Near Messages
Re: Harmful Hattie.

I read with increasing terror the idea of strengthening the laws against rape to try and artifically increase the conviction rate. Considering Harperson was allegedly a lawyer and probably had something to do with criminal practice as legal officer for NCCL/Liberty (talk about crossing the fucking floor, chaps). Therefore she ought to know that a lot of rape cases fall through due to lack of evidence. They are literally his word against hers. That`s by no means a conviction beyond reasonable doubt. And a savvy defence barrister can, in cases where there is evidence, but it`s dodgy, plant doubts in the mind of the jury.

And yes, this can involve the "nuts and sluts" defence which is where the complainant is smeared with either I. claims that she`s completely making it up because she`s after revenge and is a nut, or II. claims that she`s crying rape to excuse a consensual indiscretion or, in other words, is a slut. I do not have a problem with this, as both of these can - and have - happened.

Re: Obama the Joker.

Ugh. The same newspaper that branded this poster "racist" had several caricatures during the tenure of President George W. Bush as an ape or a vampire. Arguably these both went beyond political spoofing. Double standards much?

Either that or they haven`t realised that Saint Barack is not, in fact, able to walk on water yet, despite what his cheerleaders may think.

Re: Education about wife beating in schools.

I don`t know, I`m tempted to think it`s more being seen to be Doing Something than anything else on this.

Spiderschwein    [25771.   Posted 4-Aug-2009 Tue 13:03] View Near Messages
Re: Hattie Harmful.

MichaelG, lose the "white" and "heterosexual" from that line and it`d be just as accurate.

Methinks someone should post her a Gorean novel or three just to see her expression.

Also, have we got this:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/7224/

Interesting bit there about citizenship being obstructed by "extreme" forms of speech. Woolas by name, woolly by nature...

Spiderschwein    [25732.   Posted 25-Jul-2009 Sat 17:05] View Near Messages
"I`m not one that actually believes in the censorship of pornography, but I do think that all DVDs, magazines and cassettes should list all acts contained within, on the packaging.

That way those into piss/shit can be served, and those not interested can at least avoid spitting out a mouthful of tea, when porn starts hitting those murky depths."

This is called "the title." Usually.

To be frank, if you rent a vid called "Shite Smothered Sluts, Volume 7" you could expect to see something coprophilic.

Spiderschwein    [25662.   Posted 10-Jul-2009 Fri 15:05] View Near Messages
"Potential to cause grave social harm."

How patronising. Does His Honour really think that most people are so weak-minded that simply reading something racist will turn them into incorrigible bigots?

That`s almost as godawful as the time Yasmin Alibhai Brown claimed that without the race relations industry (I say "industry" because I`m convinced that these anti-racism bodies exist solely at times to make work for themselves) the white working classes would all recess into incorrigible bigots.

I fear not the direct effects of this judgement, but the chilling effect it might have on folks. People would rather adopt the precautionary principle and not say something that may sorely need saying just because it could possibly be interpreted as racist.

Spiderschwein    [25606.   Posted 2-Jul-2009 Thu 01:52] View Near Messages
I have to say, I`m with Shaun on this. If I ran the BBFC the following things would change:

- EVERYTHING would be allowed at 18.
- 15 would become 15A and thus make it the responsibility of the parents to decide what their children are mature enough to see.
- Abolish the R18 rating and roll it all into 18.

Spiderschwein    [25572.   Posted 24-Jun-2009 Wed 10:20] View Near Messages
Freeworld.

I`ll look out for that "Liberal fascism."

Another recommendation I have is "The Abolition of Liberty" by Peter Hitchens. I know that in his columns he comes over as a swivel-eyed Mail-reading loon but in his book he actually seems fairly level headed although I don`t agree with absolutely everything he puts out.

Also "Strictly No!" by Simon Hills. This is about the encroachment of the nanny state. The author posits that it all started in the 1970s, when it became clear to the middle-class leftist that "the poor didn`t want to be middle class; they wanted to be rich." This meant that they had to be saved from themselves, if you will - hence the nanny state.

Spiderschwein    [25513.   Posted 18-Jun-2009 Thu 12:00] View Near Messages
"aggressive personal abuse and mindless incitement/hate. Get a life."

We`re not the ones who are throwing all their toys out the pram because someone doesn`t like their paintings.

"And thanks once again for the attention you`ve brought to my work."

And you deny that calling the plods on your own work because it might be obscene is attention seeking?

Seriously, if you were worried it might be obscene, a little basic research into the Obscene Publications Act, which you can do on Westlaw from the comfort of your own study. And don`t try to tell me you`d have to pay, you`re in academia, you get free access to same with your ATHENS password. Rather than inviting Inspector Knacker to come and make a song and dance about it... unless you wanted to be nicked and thus be able to make a song and dance about it?

As the Romans might have said, "Coleus adregans!"

Spiderschwein    [25510.   Posted 18-Jun-2009 Thu 11:50] View Near Messages
Helen, how about also "not getting butthurt at legitimate criticism." That`s kind of an unwritten rule on here. Also "not being a bloody hypocrite." I note that your painting is, by your own admission, aimed at pushing the boat out on freedom of expression, yet the moment Sergio comes along and makes some (valid and legitimate) criticism, you get all bent out of shape and start making garbled legal threats to try and shut him up. As they`d say in Private Eye, "shurely shome mishtake?"

Incidentally, speaking entirely for myself, Helen, your work is almost as pretentious as that get who decided to systematically shred all his possessions back in 2000 in public (although I notice he wasn`t shredding £20 notes!) Seriously, it`s more pretentious than a My Ruin lyric.

/me now expects frothings about how I`m some sort of ignorant, uncultured philistine, so decides to go and listen to some death metal with beer and pizza.

Spiderschwein    [25466.   Posted 14-Jun-2009 Sun 04:51] View Near Messages
Yano what would really annoy the anti-ladmag frothers?

If Front or Zoo or Nuts or whoever printed a feature entitled, "How To Pretend To Be Interested In Feminism In Order To Get Women Into Bed."

Spiderschwein    [25429.   Posted 8-Jun-2009 Mon 14:44] View Near Messages
Phantom, Freeworld.

"before they simply become what Labour are now in reverse..."

So, always vote for the opposition, right?

:P

Spiderschwein    [25387.   Posted 1-Jun-2009 Mon 16:52] View Near Messages
RE: Stratford sex shops.

Cockjuggling thundercunts almighty, Shakespeare is RUDE AS ANYTHING. He wasn`t just writing for his fellow literati - he was also writing bawdy stuff for common folks to guffaw at, ultra-violence, or both.

Examples include:

The whole "what with my tongue in your taile" business in Taming of the Shrew.

In Twelfth Night, the bit with the note passing and whether it is "my lady`s hand." Because these are her "c`s, u`s, and t`s, and thus she makes her great p`s." (think about it)

In Romeo & Juliet - supposedly a tragedy - Mercutio`s singing a song about hares and whores. Also "the bawdy hand of the dagger is upon the prick of noon," and lots of innuendo about "such activity as yours leads a man to bow in the hams."

Oh, and in his poetry, Venus & Adonis, he refers to "sweet bottom grass" and innuendo about Venus`s thighs being clamped firmly over Adonis`s ears.

Alarmingly, if the Bard was writing nowadays he`d probably be done by these wowsers for disseminating sick filth.

RE: Simon Singh and chiroquactors.

Why am I not surprised? Our plaintiff-friendly libel laws practically invite this stuff. It`s not only a horrific bar to free expression via self-censorship, but it allows mountebanks like McKeith, Clark, the BCA, and so forth to silence justifiable criticism and continue to peddle their useless and/or dangerous nonsense. Not to mention the ongoing use of libel law to keep unsavouriness secret (Khalid bin Mahfouz, Tony Rezko, Michael Martin, etc.)

Methinks this place should have a whole page dedicated to libel and its chilling effects?

Spiderschwein    [25328.   Posted 19-May-2009 Tue 04:08] View Near Messages
Dano.

I`m not sure about how poverty causes crime tbh. We`re told that crime is rampant and suchlike, but it seems to me that criminality exists regardless of social class - and materially, even the poor today are better off than they were 50 years ago by far.

I still don`t think that games cause it, or that binge drinking causes it. I suspect that a lack of visible police presence and an overreliance on intelligence-led policing that all too often throws up "false positives" may be more to blame. There seems to be a policy of not expelling troublemakers from school even when they deserve it, despite the fact that their continued presence drags those who actually want to get on down with them. There seems also to be a policy of not locking up violent offenders, claiming that there`s not enough prison places, but I bet they`ll find a spot in the nick for folks caught under the DPA because they have to "send a message."

From my understanding of the topic, community orders, attendance centres, ASBOs, etc. are seen as a soft option. There are reports that "juvenile delinquents" (for want of a better phrase) see ASBOs as badges of honour and flout them repeatedly knowing that the police don`t have the time or the energy to chase them up, effectively making them a toothless punishment. Similarly, with community orders, how many of these are actually stuck to?

I don`t want to come over as a swivel-eyed "hanging`s too good for `em" type but that is what to me seems the reality of the situation. By blaming poverty for crime and insisting on an increasingly statist approach to dealing with it, you pave the way for "early intervention," state intrusion, and the attendant false positives that come with it. I suspect there is just as much blame laid at the door of video games by the left-wing bureaucrat as by the outraged Mail reader - the latter for "the world`s going to the dogs" reasons, the former for "but he`s a victim of society" reasons. This would not be unprecedented. In the 1980s the self-confessed "post Marxist" Catharine A. MacKinnon teamed up with the religious right in the US to clamp down on pornography, so...

Spiderschwein    [25301.   Posted 13-May-2009 Wed 12:37] View Near Messages
My reply to Engender, a pro-ban consultation respondent and anti-violence against women group:

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"Engender takes a clear stance on pornography and indeed views ALL pornography as violence against women because it is a systematic practice of exploitation and subordination based on sex, which differentially harms women."

Please explain how this is so. To my knowledge there is no reliable research which links pornography of any sort and its availability to rises in violent or sexual crime against women. As long as the participants in a pornographic film do so out of their own free will, I cannot see how anyone can be harmed by trading in it. It would also be signally brainless for any pornographic company to fail to get the participants` consent in the film as they would be committing to tape their own complicity in an act of rape.

Furthermore, what about pornography which is produced entirely by, for, and with, women (i.e. the works of Anna Span among other directors).

"We are aware that there is already legislation in place which criminalises the display, publishing, selling and distribution of extreme pornography, and possession with a view to onward sale or distribution. However, unlike child pornography, there is currently no legislation in place which makes it an offence simply to possess extreme pornography."

Is there? Not being a Scots lawyer I may not be clued up on this as I ought to be. However to my knowledge in England and Wales the only thing that comes close to this is the Obscene Publications Act, which simply criminalises anything "liable to deprave and corrupt" taking into account its intended audience. There is no reliable evidence that shows, assuming that "extreme pornography" is the same as in S63 of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 (the equivalent provision to this proposed one in England and Wales), that any of the material targetted by either Act is, in fact, liable to deprave and corrupt. In fact, the most recent notable English conviction under OPA - the case of Perrin - was because scatological (so certainly "extreme") material was specifically made available to under-18s.

"The proposed legislation sends a clear message to both pornography users and the wider public that accessing this material is unacceptable and is certainly not harmless. Engender holds that this legislation is needed to reduce the potential for broad cultural harm and address the demand for extreme pornography, which has led to the proliferation of rape pornography, in particular across the internet. Such sites are easily accessible for anyone, including young people, to find and because pornography is so incredibly powerful in creating and maintaining the distorted thinking, rape myths and child abuse myths that exist in society, these sites contribute to a culture where rape is not only condoned but validated."

Please show a causal link between "extreme pornography" and condonement/encouragement of rape and child abuse.

"In extreme pornography, sex is presented as abusive and violent towards women and sexualises their abuse, systematically exploits and portrays them as objects to be abused, degraded and bought. It perpetuates the myths that women are sexually available, can be persuaded or forced to have sex and are subordinate to men."

May I refer you to any pornographic title involving the set of practices known as "femdom" in which it is women who torture men and/or force them to engage in sexual activity. Also you may want to look into "CBT" or "Cock and Ball Torture." The content of this is self explanatory. There seems to be precious little research by you and your group into the material envisaged by this law.

Merely reading "Histoire d`O" does not constitute sufficient research to give rise to a law which could make criminals out of thousands overnight.

(In addition, a large number of BDSM practitioners, producers, writers, and consumers, are, in fact, women who do so of their own free will. I know whereof I speak on this.)

"Pornography’s presentation of violence and sexual abuse can support an environment in which the perpetrators of rape are rarely convicted (according to Scottish Government figures for 2006/07 only 2.9% of rapes recorded by the police led to a conviction). Pornography perpetrates myths about rape exist which can make it hard for sex offence victims to be believed or seen as credible and makes it more difficult for them to come forward and be treated with fairness."

Please show a causal link between this statistic about 2.9% of rape complaints leading to a conviction and the availability of pornography. It is logically irrelevant to juxtapose a statistic with an assertion with explaining how the statistic backs up the assertion. What research are you relying on for this?

In addition, is it not possible that the main reason why so few complaints of rape lead to a conviction is more likely to result from the following factors:

I. that a lot of complaints are withdrawn before charges are pressed for whatever reason,

II. many charges of rape are dropped owing to insufficient evidence - often allegations of rape are merely "her word against his," which is certainly not a safe basis on which to convict a person of any offence,

III. although sexual contact can be proven, at court there is not enough reliable evidence to show that the accused did so without consent.

"It must be widely recognised and accepted that pornography is a form of violence against women, a violation of their human rights and is intrinsically linked with the inequality of women in our society."

Please explain how pornography, even when all parties are consenting to being filmed engaging in any and all activities, is a violation of the female participants` human rights. Also please explain how it causes gender inequality in society. You cannot demand that people accept these assertions and links without showing evidence of it.

"There is a strong feeling that there is a missed opportunity in not including non-photographic representations of extreme acts in the bill. For example, depictions of extreme pornography on virtual worlds such as Second Life, where the pornography is violent, extreme and interactive, but where the images are not photographic. Engender also agrees that it would be vitally important to enact similar legislation in relation to child pornography."

How is this anything other than a victimless crime? If I am to log onto Second Life and engage in rough, violent, virtual sex with a (consenting, of course) online contact, how is anyone or anything being degraded, abused, or molested? What if I am to paint or draw a BDSM scene - should that be criminalised even though it was merely in my imagination that violent sex was had? Unlike with conventional (film or photograph) "extreme" images, with regard to an online simulation there can be no possibility whatsoever that ANYONE was harmed in its creation.

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Also, here`s a snippet from the "Zero Tolerance Taskforce" response that shows the paucity of research any of these nutters have done into the subject:

"for example double vaginal and anal penetration is standard practice in mainstream pornography."

Hands up who`s actually seen an act of DVDA successfully performed?

*tumbleweed*

That`s because it`s physically impossible. Peoples` pelvises would get in the way of each other.

Spiderschwein    [25298.   Posted 12-May-2009 Tue 05:22] View Near Messages
RE: Phorm.

Apparently opposition to Phorm is some sort of orchestrated smear campaign by privacy pirates and other ne`er do wells:

http://www.stopphoulplay.com/

Enjoy.

Spiderschwein    [25295.   Posted 9-May-2009 Sat 16:05] View Near Messages
RE: Tor.

Just got back from a school reunion, where I encountered one of my compatriots who`s now an independent IT security consultant. I asked him about Tor as a way to circumvent state tracking and monitoring and so forth and he said that it works in theory, but apparently there`s several exit nodes planted by the authorities to intercept and monitor traffic. Therefore it`s not always secure.

Can anyone confirm this at all?

Spiderschwein    [25291.   Posted 9-May-2009 Sat 04:53] View Near Messages
Why can`t Vaz just stick to flogging passports to dodgy Indian business magnates like he`s good at?

Spiderschwein    [25284.   Posted 7-May-2009 Thu 15:16] View Near Messages
PBR, some of us don`t even get that (recession, anxiety, possible aspiedom, not being particularly handsome and not wanting to fork over vast sums for NLP lessons to Mr Jeffries or Mr DeAngelo).

Then again, I see myself being on the DNA database for 12 years even if I`m found innocent of having the "wrong" material in the special folder on my F: drive...

Ugh.

Also, can I point out that the worst thing about all this is the fjoerking APATHY people have towards it. It`s frightening that people seem to want to be monitored and scrutinised on a near-constant basis. Were they asleep in GCSE History or something?!?!

Spiderschwein    [25280.   Posted 7-May-2009 Thu 04:53] View Near Messages
RE: Harrperson and testosterone poisoning.

Bollox. Women can be just as much egotistical, arrogant, grasping cunts as men. Probably more so, I`d say.

At school, boys would bully folks by beating them and constant taunts and suchlike. Whereas girls would bully by ostracism, exclusion, and backstabbery. Therefore, when a woman wants to be an egotistical, arrogant, grasping cunt, it`s more likely she`s had practice at it.

I bet Harrperson was the school bully actually. It`s not a mentality people grow out of. I was bullied at school and yes, the bullies haven`t changed one single iota. They`ve got jobs like bouncer in a dodgy club, traffic warden, police officer, or Deputy Prime Minister. Basically anything where they can chuck their weight around and seem important.

Thanks to Harrperson and her sistahood, when/if I end up having children I`ll probably have to parachute into their mothers` back garden dressed as Rorschach or something.

Fucking sow. Why can`t someone just stab her.

Spiderschwein    [25272.   Posted 5-May-2009 Tue 17:34] View Near Messages
Hey all. I`ve been a bit busy with trying to find a job when I finish my course so have not been posting too much on here.

With regard to Harrperson putting her hat in the ring to be Labour leader... firstly, I am reminded of 1995, when John Redwood challenged Major for the leadership. Hopefully ZaNuLab are in a similar state as the Tory government was back in 1995 if this is any guide.

Secondly, when I heard the news I was listening to At the Gates` song "Blinded By Fear. And yes, Harmful Hattie as PM is very much "the face of all your fears..." in fact it should be her campaign song.

Spiderschwein    [25238.   Posted 27-Apr-2009 Mon 14:20] View Near Messages
RE: P4P.

Something from Spiked I think we might want to look at...

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6606/

Spiderschwein    [25232.   Posted 27-Apr-2009 Mon 04:13] View Near Messages
RE: Liberty and their AGM.

(crossposted from my facebook group on the DPA)

I`ve been invited, and I intend to go.

There`s one item on the agenda that kinda troubles me though. Billed under "SLAVERY," it refers to calling upon the Government to do more to protect the victims of trafficking.

Now recently there`s been a bit of a push by this Government to criminalise paying for sex, justifying it with a "suppression of trafficking" mantra and quoting figures drawn pretty much entirely from the Abuse Industry (charities, feminist groups, and other people who want to gain by frightening folk).

There`s also a distinct dearth in the agenda of anything relating to privacy and censorship... which is a bit startling considering the recent developments about email interception and phone call databases...

Spiderschwein    [25226.   Posted 22-Apr-2009 Wed 13:19] View Near Messages
Pureform, the thought of Jacqui Smith in a state of orgasmic bliss drains every last iota of blood from my penis. Please! There might be children on here!

Spiderschwein    [25193.   Posted 11-Apr-2009 Sat 09:38] View Near Messages
Likewise. Well, I`ll be an LPC grad in a few months. However, the job market for trainees is looking a bit thin on the ground at the moment...

Sorry for misunderestimating ye PBR.

Thing is, though, suppose you were a partner at a law firm, and an ex-banker who`s gone into law as a career change comes to interview. They`ve just flushed millions of pounds of other peoples` money down the shitter, or had a part in it, which is why they`re out of a job. Would you be willing to employ them?

EDIT:

Also, do we have this?

http://www.sunshinepress.org/wiki/Germany_muzzles_WikiLeaks

Spiderschwein    [25191.   Posted 11-Apr-2009 Sat 06:15] View Near Messages
Solicitors in 4 years? But this has been around for ages.

Actually, anyone who`s a graduate in something else can qualify in 4 years from graduation - they first take the Common Professional Examination (a one year crash course in law), the Legal Practice Course (a one year course in legal procedure, professional ethics, and skills), and then do a two-year training contract with a firm (Which is on the job training).

The 6 years for "everyone else" is counted from the start of university - three years law degree, jump straight to LPC, then training contract. For a non-law student it would take 7 years, as they`d have to do the CPE as well.

As regards Hattie Harmful on the BNP, maybe people are turning to the BNP not because they`re being brainwashed or they`re not being given enough diversity away training, but because the folks who vote for the BNP see the "mainstream" parties as having lost touch with them and their interests. The best way to beat the BNP is to quit being an ivory-tower snob and actually engage with the white working classes other than to preach at them, who form a significant part of the BNP`s voter base.

Also, I think we need some sort of action against photographing the police. How about a spontaneous mass snaporama, where a horde of folks take to the streets snapping anything in a chessboard hat and yellow jacket?

With the wonders of mobile broadband as well, we could probably get the pics uploaded within minutes. Maybe this is why they`re so keen on photographing being criminalised - with mobile broadband and digital photography so widespread, the powers that be are frightened of the accountability that this is liable to foist on them?

Spiderschwein    [25183.   Posted 9-Apr-2009 Thu 13:20] View Near Messages
Pureform has a point. After all, in early 2005 I remember a very big song and dance being made over the ban on fox hunting coming into force to deflect attention from the appearance of some of the nastier provisions in SOCPA...

Spiderschwein    [25179.   Posted 8-Apr-2009 Wed 11:58] View Near Messages
RE: Lady GaGa.

What about Nine Inch Nails`s video to "Broken" with the torture machine, by that token?

Or the video to Dimmu Borgir`s "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" which may well fall foul of the DPA due to the bit where Nick Barker has several nude blood-soaked lovelies on the end of a chain while nuclear weapons go off in the background.

Spiderschwein    [25171.   Posted 7-Apr-2009 Tue 04:54] View Near Messages
Freeworld.

What Shaun said.

As a recent graduate of a major British university, I can tell you from experience that most student politics nowadays is completely bereft of any real fire or suchlike. Most of those who engage in it are, for want of a better term, Mercedes Marxists who are just going through the motions. They have no real desire to actually change anything. The G20 protestors were marching for "jobs, justice, and climate," but it was all an exercise in raising awareness without any concrete plan to solve it. None of them seemed at all serious about changing anything, nor were they willing to go out there and actually do something positive about it. It was just them caterwauling about it because it was the "in" thing to do.

Meanwhile, when I tried to get them interested in the systematic deconstruction of our civil liberties by New Labour, they were totally uninterested.

Why? I suspect because you can`t make it sexy in the same way you can make starving in Africa or global warming sexy. You can have pictures of big-eyed starving kids with one tear running photogenically down their cheek, or of polar bears falling off icebergs, but you can`t do the same with, say, ID cards or suchlike. The ability to yank on folks` heartstrings just isn`t there.

My point is, is that student radicalism is no longer against the establishment. It IS the establishment.

I wrote about this on E2 a while back:

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=student+politics&lastnode_id=124&searchy=search

Spiderschwein    [25159.   Posted 6-Apr-2009 Mon 04:25] View Near Messages
RE: The Frankfurt School fanboys who now rule us.

Seems to me that this lot have played a long game of entryism.

So why can`t we libertarians do the same, eh? Get ourselves elected unconnectedly and then suddenly band together once there`s enough of us inside to throw out all this nonsense?

Granted, it`s a lot more complicated - and longer - than that, but the principle is sound and evidently works...

Spiderschwein    [25114.   Posted 31-Mar-2009 Tue 12:25] View Near Messages
From today`s Granuiad - black box road tracking IS going ahead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/31/surveillance-transport-communication-box

I think it would be one for Liberty Watch maybe?

And I can`t help but feel, given the environmental justification being put forth for this, that we can expect to have to trade our liberties for ecology in the future, esp. if the greenies get their way.

Spiderschwein    [25112.   Posted 31-Mar-2009 Tue 08:30] View Near Messages
RE: Sex Ed vs. Porn.

Methinks C5 should repeat "21st Century Sex" which was, on balance, a far more rational exploration of such matters than this nonsense.

Like many other posters on here I`ve been on the internets since 1999 and I`ve never, not once, surfed onto any child porn, either accidentally or intentionally. Nor has anyone I know.

Does anyone here sometimes suspect that there`s a whole industry dedicated to drumming up FUD about abuse and so forth in order to profit from it - like an abuse industry?

Spiderschwein    [25098.   Posted 30-Mar-2009 Mon 17:19] View Near Messages
RE: Sex Ed v. Porn.

I contemplated watching this after The Trouble With Boris but I desisted because I just knew it was going to be an entire hour of "I went on the internet today, and I found this!" "Errrrrrgh!!! BAN! CENSOR! CRIMINALISE!"

Tell us if you get any response from C4 eh Shaun?

EDIT:

As regards not having that magic to make the opposite sex swoon at you, this is a problem I seem to have. Even though I`m young, bright, moderately handsome, and setting up for a promising career and so forth, I can`t help but see Leisure Suit Larry in my future!

Speaking of which, there`s a scene in that where you can get off with a whore. Had we best ban it because it might encourage folks to do the same?

Spiderschwein    [25089.   Posted 29-Mar-2009 Sun 06:38] View Near Messages
RE: Jacqui Smith and porn.

So it was her husband that was watching them.

Yeah.

Just like how Bill Clinton didn`t inhale, I bet.

I bet she was there and she was splittin` the kitten like there was no tomorrow over such.

(Ugh, what a horrific mental image.)

Spiderschwein    [25083.   Posted 26-Mar-2009 Thu 13:19] View Near Messages
RE: P4P.

(Cross posted from my Facebook group opposed to the DPA.)

As you may know, CAAN is currently opposed to the prospect of criminalising what we on the Melon Farmers called "P4P" or "pay for play" - that is, buying sexual services.

What be your thoughts on this proposal:

I`m curious because I`ve been reading this book recently called "La vie quotidienne dans les maisons closes," by one Laure Adler, which is all about legal, regulated brothels that existed in Paris in the first half of the 20th century and back end of the 19th century. The author makes the case that there is a place for such a system in today`s society and that it`s a solution that`s not been given enough thought in the debate over prostitution. There`s also, it seems, some similarities, both in regulation and in the trappings of the trade, between the "maisons closes" in Paris during the "belle époque," and in modern day Nevada and its legalised brothels.

What do people here think on this then?

Also, if there`s anyone on here who has visited an, erm, "professional," and has a view on the topic, I`m curious about your views in particular.

Spiderschwein    [25077.   Posted 25-Mar-2009 Wed 13:37] View Near Messages
RE: Uberbobb and indoctrination.

"the 20000 new images a week figure"

Anyone who believes this can`t have done the mathematics.

Suppose there are 20,000 new kiddie pr0n pix that drop onto the web every week. And suppose each one takes up, on average, 60K.

That means that there`s 1.2GB, approx, of new kiddie porn appearing on the internet each week.

Suppose that each image, on average, is circulated to 100 nonces. That`s 120GB of disk space, per week, taken up with new images. That`s about an average hard disk`s worth. And each week thereafter it`s circulated to a further 10 nonces.

Multiplied by 52 weeks and that`s ( (52^2 + 52) / 2 ) * 10 = a further 13.8TB of kiddie porn generated each year. And since this has been going on (web paedo panic) for at least 10 years, assuming the same dissemination rates, that`s 13.8 * 55 (being the 10th triangle number) = 758TB of kiddie porn out there.

Eric Schmidt, head of Google, estimates that Google has indexed 170TB worth of sites.

Therefore, kiddie porn, according to the NSPCC and my dodgy mathematics, forms 80% of the internet.

By that token, you should on average wander into kiddie porn every four clicks out of five or thereabouts.

Conclusion: The NSPCC is talking bollox.

RE: Dano and Germans blaming video games.

I just played "Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards" on Dosbox. Therefore, I see a balding, overweight, fetid-breathed 38 year old ultravirgin whose fashion sense dates from the worst parts of the disco era in my future. Or at least it does if the idea that games inspire people to do things has any weight behind it.

The fact that you don`t even see any shagging in it (a black box marked "Censored" bounces up and down over the bed while a sped up version of the theme song plays) is immaterial.

Spiderschwein    [25069.   Posted 24-Mar-2009 Tue 14:22] View Near Messages
RE: Education.

"If you are over 18, education is there if you can afford it. Seeing as university tuition fees are going up again (from the current amount of £3145 per year)."

Yet they want more students from poorer backgrounds to go to university. How do they reconcile this with an increase in tuition fees? Surely increased tuition fees to an almost American level is going to merely entrench class differences. Though probably they knew this and are doing it so they can continue to foster their class warfare policies.

And as for raising school leaving to 18... methinks that`s just to keep them off the streets and the unemployment statistics. I fear we`re going down a path of US-style education-to-keep-the-kids-occupied sometimes. No wonder parents are pretending to be Catholic just to get into a school with some academic wherewithal, or putting the kids down as living with their grandparents in a different county.

Also, Uberbobb, what "brainwashing techniques" are you referring to? They`re not using NLP to get the little buggers to swallow Government orthodoxy now are tehy?

Spiderschwein    [25028.   Posted 17-Mar-2009 Tue 15:49] View Near Messages
RE: Sergio.

How about this charming litle song?

http://eclectech.co.uk/dailymailpicnic.php

Spiderschwein    [25020.   Posted 14-Mar-2009 Sat 18:40] View Near Messages
RE: Cartoons, drawings, etc. of children.

I think I`d be sunk. Why? Because I own an album by the French black metal band Anorexia Nervosa. Its cover looks like this:

http://www.metal-archives.com/images/8/2/9/4/8294.gif

Never mind that it`s a painting... oh no...

Spiderschwein    [25017.   Posted 14-Mar-2009 Sat 12:17] View Near Messages
RE: E-borders.

Wouldn`t surprise me if they did use it to enforce travel restrictions as punishments. Or at least try to.

What`s even creepier is they could use it to stealth-exile troublemakers or political opponents by not letting them back in once they`ve left the country...

Spiderschwein    [25003.   Posted 12-Mar-2009 Thu 07:38] View Near Messages
RE: Tim Kretschmer.

Today`s Telegraph had someone quoted as saying how he was "obsessed" with death metal.

How long before someone comes out the woodwork and claims that a lack of God was to blame, eh?

Spiderschwein    [24949.   Posted 8-Mar-2009 Sun 08:10] View Near Messages
RE: Abusive partner database.

I bet there`s no provision in this database for abusive female partners. Or abusive partners in gay and lesbian relationships.

And that`s before we even get onto the fact that this has no place in our society. Who I go out with is my affair. And how does one get on this abusive partner registry? By being accused, even if it was later dropped, of wife beating? By suspicion of Social Services?

Does anyone else ever suspect that there may be a whole industry dedicated to propagandising, sorry, "raising awareness" of domestic violence and exploiting it for financial gain? Sort of another manifestation of Michael Crichton`s concept of the PLM? Because I`m pretty much convinced of it.

Spiderschwein    [24910.   Posted 3-Mar-2009 Tue 05:12] View Near Messages
RE: Harman and Fred`s pension.

"The court of public opinion." Exactly. Who cares what is the right thing to do or what is legal or moral as long as you can massage support for it.

In other words, mob rule.

Spiderschwein    [24886.   Posted 26-Feb-2009 Thu 05:01] View Near Messages
RE: £100,000 a year from prostitution.

Jesus fuck. I think I might as well go on the game. You don`t make half that much straight out of university even if you end up in the City!!!!

Even if this is after "professional expenses" such as condoms, lube, calling cards, and so forth... you get the idea.

Spiderschwein    [24881.   Posted 25-Feb-2009 Wed 11:31] View Near Messages
Hey all.

Not been on here for a while because, well, a lot of the discussion`s been about the Dangerous Cartoons Bill and I don`t really know enough about animé to have much of a thought on it. I am of course opposed but it`s a general matter of principle rather than due to inside knowledge of the hentai/yaoi/general cartoon smut market.

Found this on Spiked with regard to the BBFC and their views on classifying porn:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6291/

Spiderschwein    [24829.   Posted 19-Feb-2009 Thu 07:33] View Near Messages
RE: pbr.

Kids will flee porn like water off a duck`s back?

Have these people ever actually been teenagers?

Me. Aged fifteen. Monday morning round the table before registration. All of us lads getting together and swapping URLs.

This wasn`t because we were creephats. This is what teenage boys do. Before the Internet, there was dodgy satellite cards and vids. Before video recorders there were mags. I think it`s been a teenage rite of passage since time immemorial to furtively enter a newsagent`s and try and score a Razzle or a Club and pass it round your mates.

Speaking of teenage rites of passage, here`s something interesting on Spiked with regard to children online:

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6269/

Spiderschwein    [24785.   Posted 14-Feb-2009 Sat 05:36] View Near Messages
RE: Watchmen.

I fear it will be butchered beyond recognition, like they did with Alan Moore`s "From Hell." The distributors, that is, not the BBFC.

I think any comic that doesn`t involve a protagonist who happy-gallaghers around with his underpants on the outside of his trousers gets a bad press amongst wowsers, esp. if it involves violence, sex, or both. Comix are seen by such wowsers as something for teenagers and kids and so forth, so the idea of an adult-oriented comic is inherently suspect.

Oh, and Vaz, once again, should shut the fjoerk up and get back to selling passports to dodgy Indians like a good little sleazebucket.

Spiderschwein    [24758.   Posted 12-Feb-2009 Thu 09:55] View Near Messages
RE: RapeLay.

I`ve not had the misfortune to play this game. I read a suitably scathing review of it on Something Awful and I get the idea.

I have to say that its subject matter makes me more than a little uncomfortable. But then again, the victims in such a game are computer generated animations. They are not real, and players of the game know this. After all, people have been playing Doom and its ilk for over sixteen years now and we don`t see them charging around with an assortment of automatic weaponry just for fun do we?

To be fair, anyone who is led to commit a sexual offence by a video game would probably have offended sexually anyhow sooner or later, and the evidence shows this.

What we`re seeing at the moment about games is the same attempt by the PLM at forging a moral panic as happened before in the mid 1990s with the worries about death and black metal influencing murder, mutilation, and desecration (I`ve been listening to Mayhem for years and I`ve never, not once, set fire to a church), in the 1980s with "video nasties," and even in the late 1960s with the hippie/counter culture movement (though to be fair I find the stench of patchouli oil makes me want to stab kittens, so...)

Vaz should stick to what he knows about - like selling British passports to dodgy foreign magnates...

Spiderschwein    [24744.   Posted 11-Feb-2009 Wed 13:15] View Near Messages
RE: Porn viewing on the internets.

"Has it not occurred to these hags that if they took more care of themselves, dressed sexily and lost a ton of weight then their men might not want to view porn. Mind you I watch it with my incredibly sexy Asian wife and then afterwards we try things out that we like the look of."

Or even has it not occurred that once a month strictly with the lights out is... well, a bit on the economical side.

I suspect that whenever someone cites porn viewing as a reason for a marriage falling to bits, it was probably down the toilet beforehand.

There`s an (apocryphal) tale about this sort of thing, actually.

Former President Calvin Coolidge and his wife were visiting a poultry farm out in Iowa and they noticed that although there were five hundren hens in the farm, there was only one rooster, yet all the hens were laying and having chicks and so forth.

"Tell me," said Mrs Coolidge, "Does that rooster have to service all those hens?"

"Oh yes, Mrs Coolidge, at least thirty a day."

"Tell that to the president!" she said.

So he did and later, he said, "Ah, but does he have to service the same one thirty times a day?"

"Well of course not Mr President!" says the farmer.

"aha!" says Calvin Coolidge. "Tell THAT to the First Lady!!!!"

This, incidentally, is why frothy underwear, costumes, latex, and so forth sell so well. Because dressing up in such is the equivalent of a hen changing its plumage - the rooster thinks it`s a different hen and goes to work with aplomb.

RE: Freeworld.

I foresee that this will sink like a brick in shit. Ever since the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic of the late 1980s there`s been strict adherence to the precautionary principle over abuse allegations - specifically, a presumption that victims never lie about it. It is, of course, wrong. Many a teenager possessed of some low cunning has taken advantage of this to get vengeance against a disliked teacher by claiming that "sir`s a nonce, he tried to feel me up after PE" or similar. However, the idea of innocent until proven guilty with regard to abuse is often taken out of context by politicians and the media as "being soft on rapists and paedos" or suchlike...

Spiderschwein    [24698.   Posted 9-Feb-2009 Mon 05:52] View Near Messages
RE: P4P.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6189/

Here`s some commentary on it. I don`t think there`s anything there we didn`t already know, but I thought it might interest people.

Also, haven`t we seen the thing about the Olympics possibly leading to an influx of trafficked women for work in brothels before, as there was a similar worry round the World Cup back in 2006?

Spiderschwein    [24696.   Posted 9-Feb-2009 Mon 05:39] View Near Messages
RE: Hattie Harmful on banking.

"There is something rotten in the remuneration system of the banks and finance companies. Men paying themselves millions of pounds of bonuses each - and then saying that they didn`t know what was going on."

And no women bankers paid themselves huge bonuses for failure?

Harriet seems to be living in an Alternate Bizarro Universe.

RE: CIU.

This is worrisome. I don`t care much for trade union militants, I abhor neo-Nazis and I utterly despise animal rights terrorists. But the idea that this unit should be used for political ends, as is suggested by that article, is frankly terrifying.

None of the rest of Europe or indeed the Western world is doing this, because they have had first hand experience of the horrors of totalitarian rule and its trappings like ID cards to be produced on demand, abolition of civil liberties, and secret police. As recently as the 1970s Spain was still a fascist dictatorship, an as recently as 1991 half of Germany was under Communist oppression. No wonder the Continentals are so much more willing to concern themselves with liberties issues! If Sarko tried this sort of thing in France the country would probably go on strike or something. If in Italy they did such a thing they`d have a riot. If the US set up such a unit then the population of remote survivalist compounds in the middle of nowhere would quadruple overnight.

Ugh.

Spiderschwein    [24685.   Posted 8-Feb-2009 Sun 07:14] View Near Messages
One for Liberty Watch, ladies and gentlemen...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7877182.stm

Let`s think about other countries that have restricted peoples` freedom to leave... none of them are places I`d want to live!

"The intelligence centre will store names, addresses, telephone numbers, seat reservations, travel itineraries and credit card details of travellers."

And accordingly, within weeks of this coming into force, the intelligence centre will have lost, or sold to scam artists, names, addresses, telephone numbers, seat reservations, travel itineraries and credit card details of travellers.

Spiderschwein    [24681.   Posted 7-Feb-2009 Sat 08:42] View Near Messages
RE: P4P.

How about, if/when this ban comes into force, we should send a postcard to Coaker when the first call girl is murdered saying "Congratulations. Your pathetic, petty law`s just killed an innocent person. I hope you`re proud."

It is well known that the only proven way of dealing with prostitution was the "maisons closes" method instituted in France in the late 19th/early 20th centuries, and thus replicated in Nevada in the present day. Not some godawful blame-the-punter nonsense. What part of this does Coaker and co. not understand?

Spiderschwein    [24673.   Posted 7-Feb-2009 Sat 07:32] View Near Messages
Re: Labour Politicians and their Ocular Deficiencies.

Well, Rik Mayall didn`t get forced to apologise for this exchange in the New Statesman stage show from February 2006:

(For the record, in the stage show, Alan B`stard has crossed the floor and is now the Labour minister in charge of selling peerages.)

ALAN: "Well why don`t you bring him [Gordon Brown] down then by having an affair with him?"
SARAH: "Ergh! But he`s only got one eye!"
ALAN: "Well you shagged Blunkett without any complaint, and he`s got none!"

I didn`t find Clarkson`s comments offensive in any way, shape, or form. But then I`m not a thin-skinned wowser and I have better things to do.

Spiderschwein    [24616.   Posted 2-Feb-2009 Mon 09:41] View Near Messages
RE: Idolising the Chinese.

May I refer you to comments made by Jonathan Porritt, head of the Optimum Population Trust, with regard to the Californian octuplets.

He said that anyone having more than two children is being environmentally irresponsible and that the State should enforce a two-child limit.

Yes, and while we`re at it, let`s further tackle overpopulation by having our very own Holodomor. If I want to have fourteen kids, as this woman in California has had, then as long as I can pay for it all, why should the State stop me from having 14 kids?

Porritt has the ear of the Government, which terrifies me.

Spiderschwein    [24613.   Posted 2-Feb-2009 Mon 06:44] View Near Messages
Re: SasaMisa.

I feel your pain. I live in a town near London that`s known... well, for a variety of things. One of which is terrifying racial tension. There are certain areas of the town that are best avoided if you`re the wrong ethnicity.

The response of Thames Valley Police to this?

Erm... fjoerk all, if I`m honest.

They`d rather set up mobile speeding cameras in obscured areas (like in a dip on an uphill dual carriageway just before it turns into a 40 zone, a spot you can`t see until you`re right on top of it), hang around in town centres and annoy "binge drinkers" (I`ve been out drinking in this town and have stumbled out of pubs at 2am, yet not once have I seen anyone starting fights or vandalising stuff or anything) and put posters on buses saying, "Relax. Go ahead and read. Nobody can tell you`re a WIFE BEATER." than do anything about gang warfare, racial tension, or the marked increase in theft.

This reliance on cleaning up "easy" crime and launching initiatives has somewhat worried me; I`ve got some material on my secondary hard disk that could be considered "extreme," therefore, since I am a respectable, non-violent individual I`m probably considered a soft target and thus an easy arrest/detection. Whereas the folks who wander round the grimier parts of town at night offering "£90 for a gram" are considered problem youths and given an easy ride.

(Fuck me, I sound like Peter Hitchens.)

Spiderschwein    [24603.   Posted 31-Jan-2009 Sat 07:00] View Near Messages
RE: SasaMisa.

"overpopulation, rapidly depleting oil reserves, and global warming, which none of the governments worldwide have done anything to solve."

Other than mouth platitudes and pass spiteful regulations which interfere with the "little people" yet ultimately do nothing.

We should have moved to nuclear power 20 years ago. The French did. But we didn`t, and so we`re now far too heavily reliant on foreign oil for our own good. When peak oil rears its ugly head we`re going to be fucked unless we have made serious investment, research, and so forth into non-fossil fuel sources of energy. This means nuclear power plants, tidal barrages on the Severn, and so forth. Not building a load of wind farms (which are pretty shit forms of energy production and serve only to enrich technology businesses).

Yet despite this reticence to get ourselves away from importing Saudi oil, it`s not stopped NuLab regulating things on the grounds of environmentalism. The fact that if they really wanted to cut down on pollution then the mechanisms and technologies are already in place - investment in CO2 capture and storage, investment in nuclear power, even research into how we can make more efficient and less pollutive coal-fired plants. We`re going to need every scrap of non-imported energy we can lay our hands on in the next few decades.

Spiderschwein    [24595.   Posted 30-Jan-2009 Fri 15:13] View Near Messages
RE: Phantom and bowdlerising Drunken Sailor.

Oooohhh, I remember how I and my mates, when at school, butchered hymns in assembly. "At the Name of Penis" was one of ours. As was "Lord of the Fuck."

Of course, if any teenager did that nowadays they`d probably find themselves up in court for incitement to religious hatred.

Spiderschwein    [24589.   Posted 30-Jan-2009 Fri 06:12] View Near Messages
One for Liberty Watch, methinks:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7859097.stm

Manchester`s to trial ID cards. A safe and secure way of proving your identity? I thought we already had that in the form of a passport?

Spiderschwein    [24547.   Posted 28-Jan-2009 Wed 09:07] View Near Messages
RE: KingBilly.

May God give you to search for your children with a Geiger counter.

RE: Everyone else.

There was an editorial in the Telegraph today about the ContactPoint database. They mentioned that the children of celebrities and political figures would not be on the database. Hmmm. One right to privacy for some, but none for the rest of us.

Spiderschwein    [24507.   Posted 26-Jan-2009 Mon 06:41] View Near Messages
Lap dancing objections in Oxford.

I don`t know if we have this already, but here goes.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/4072621.It_s_in_the_lap_of_the_gods/

Spiderschwein    [24498.   Posted 25-Jan-2009 Sun 15:41] View Near Messages
RE: CAAN protest.

Addendum that may be amusing to folks on here. Spoke to one woman who said she was doing security for the Labour Party conference a while back, and this involved baggage screening.

According to her, Harriet Harman keeps a rampant rabbit in her briefcase.

This is, of course, the same Harman whose radical feminist ideology classes such items as symbols of enslavement to men`s lust.

Whoops!

Spiderschwein    [24496.   Posted 25-Jan-2009 Sun 14:26] View Near Messages
RE: CAAN protest.

Well, I got there about 2.30pm. The turnout didn`t seem as large as I expected but there you go.

So we tromped around Parliament Square a few times, held up signs saying "Honk if you like kinky porn," to one or two beeps, and that was about it really. About 4 or so we decamped to the pub.

There should be a few pictures floating about the internets soon enough, I`m in several of them.

I also discussed with a few folks the idea of a defence fund. They thought it a good idea in principle, but the practicalities of such seemed a bit tough. Surely, I thought, we could get individuals to drop a few quid in the hat, and maybe approach businesses and things to see if we can get them to drop some cash there also...

Spiderschwein    [24476.   Posted 24-Jan-2009 Sat 16:35] View Near Messages
Oh fucking hell.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7848580.stm

""When they can afford it, it is right that those who choose to use the civil courts should pay - not the taxpayer. That means the taxpayers` contribution is used for fee concessions - to make sure the least well-off have access to justice. "

Bollocks. It`s a fine for daring to challenge anyone in authority.

Seriously, whoever thought of this ruse should have a hole ripped in their torso then be gang-raped in the wound, repeatedly, by AIDS-infected horses.

Spiderschwein    [24467.   Posted 24-Jan-2009 Sat 07:06] View Near Messages
"Harman`s hypocrisy knows no boundaries. She can`t, one one hand, sit there like a modern day Marie Antoinette, enjoying massive wealth and privilege (much of it at our expense), then at the same time masquerade as some kind of ghastly 21st century real life manifestation of Delacroix`s famous painting `Liberty Leading The People`. I can see it now, brave Harriet, Communist flag in one hand, AK-47 in the other, leads a baying mob of feminazis, chavs, asylum seekers, Islamic extremists and gay rights activists down Whitehall as she strides over the fallen bodies of those who have dared to be white, heterosexual, and actually chosen to work for a living. Hopefully, unlike in the painting, she`ll have the decency to spare us the sight of her tits."

Why can`t someone just photoshop her head onto a poster from "Ilse, She Wolf of the SS" then post a copy to her?

Spiderschwein    [24428.   Posted 19-Jan-2009 Mon 17:17] View Near Messages
Wotcher everyone.

I think we ought to get to writing out MPs about the Freedom of Information Order that they`re voting on on Thursday. It`s in connection with transparency surrounding Parliamentary expenses...

www.theyworkforyou.com, as always.

Spiderschwein    [24375.   Posted 15-Jan-2009 Thu 06:24] View Near Messages
From CAAN`s newsletter:

"Since the Proceeds of Crime Act, raids have become profitable for the police. They receive 25% of any assets confiscated both at the time and from subsequent prosecutions. The Crown Prosecution Service keeps another 25% and the rest goes to the Inland Revenue, ie the government. It is common for the police to seize any money found on the premises. Even if no one is charged, the money is rarely returned as police take advantage of sex workers’ reluctance to go public. Women who have worked for years to put money aside lose not only their livelihood but their home, car, life savings, jewellery, etc. This exploitation by agents of the State is the worst form of theft and pimping. We believe it is a main reason why raids are now high up on the police and government agenda."

Thoughts, anyone?

Spiderschwein    [24371.   Posted 14-Jan-2009 Wed 13:35] View Near Messages
RE: Hattie Harmful.

"‘We want to do more than just provide escape routes out of poverty for a talented few. We want to tackle the class divide,’"

No, they aren`t escape routes out of poverty for a talented few, Harrperson, they`re escape routes out of poverty for those who have the gumption and the wherewithal and are willing to put in the hard work and effort.

One thing I`m certain could bridge class divides far better than any statist meddling is encouragement by positive role models. Professionals. Business figures. People who were born into resolutely working class surroundings but worked to get out. Self made men (and women). Not the hand-wringing of some Mercedes Marxist.

Spiderschwein    [24352.   Posted 11-Jan-2009 Sun 07:08] View Near Messages
RE: Green banning.

Oh absolutely. The fact that there`s a real need to get to non-fossil fuel energy sources as soon as possible (because the oil`s not going to last forever and the Saudis aren`t going to stay unconditionally friendly in any case) doesn`t bother them. I mean, why get to building tidal barrages on the Severn, nuclear power plants, or ploughing money into researching fusion energy when you can ban big screen TVs, tax drivers (despite the fact that there are those of us who need a car to get anywhere because public transport outside London is frankly useless).

Some greenies are also advocating a CO2 tax - i.e. bringing back the poll tax. Which will nobble ordinary folks trying to go on holiday but will be just dandy for the six- and seven-figure-salaried folks who run green organisations, who can afford it anyhow.

Also, watch the green pages for a resurgence of black box road tracking. I remember in 2007, the Indy lambasted the Government for dropping that idea, claiming it was being indecisive on the environment.

Recommended reading - "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton. Not the best written book he`s produced, but very thought provoking. Also, some reviewers on Amazon have decried it as "dangerous" because it casts doubts about the climate change orthodoxy and tried to smear it with being Big Oil-funded propaganda...

Spiderschwein    [24317.   Posted 6-Jan-2009 Tue 13:43] View Near Messages
RE: Widdecombe.

"As for Anne Widecombe I would argue that she is so irrelevent these days that the only publicity she can get is by latching on to engineered Daily Mail outrage. Most young people haven`t a clue who she is."

I`m comparatively young by the standards of folks on here it seems, and I know she`s that fat wowser who was MP for Maidstone in the 1990s and who occasionally hosts Have I Got News For You.

Speaking of which, she complained about death and black metal at that time after a number of folks in Tunbridge Wells went and vandalised a cemetery. She tried to blame Cradle of Filth and their song "Summer Dying Fast" which features the lyrics "clawing at the grave of the dead Nazarene."

Spiderschwein    [24311.   Posted 6-Jan-2009 Tue 06:39] View Near Messages
RE: Bailiffs.

Fuck that, I`m getting myself a shotgun.

Up round the Fens, Emneth, Wisbech, etc., Tony Martin`s considered a folk hero. I`m beginning to agree with them.

Spiderschwein    [24290.   Posted 4-Jan-2009 Sun 10:55] View Near Messages
RE: Janus17.

"Could this be the chink in the armour as far as this legislation is concerned? It`s all very well Fatty Smith saying that it won`t be a defence to say `I didn`t know`, but if you`ve been duly informed straight from the horses mouth (for want of a better term) that the girl you`ve arranged to see is operating absolutely independently, then surely no-one can realistically construct any kind of case against you for seeing someone who is `controlled for gain`?"

Well, they could claim that that sentence was put there at the behest of the evil human traffickers, or that she was really controlled for the gain of men as a whole, being as she is brainwashed by the whitemalepatriarchicalhegemony who`ve lured her into a false consciousness and all that bollox...

Spiderschwein    [24267.   Posted 3-Jan-2009 Sat 09:04] View Near Messages
RE: Daily Mail and "sadistic" porn protestors:

"It seems to me the Daily Mail`s view is that if you disagree with Liz Longhurst`s opinion on violent porn you are condoning what was done to her sister and somehow are uncaring about her pain."

Don`t you mean daughter? Liz Longhurst was Jane`s mother.

And to be frank, what did you expect from the Mail? It`s a tabloid. It reports things in a tabloid manner - i.e. painting everything as a Manichean struggle of good versus evil, because that`s what sells.

Spiderschwein    [24252.   Posted 2-Jan-2009 Fri 14:55] View Near Messages
"he wasn`t a member of the Bullingdon Club"

This would affect Wee Dave`s policies how?

Spiderschwein    [24236.   Posted 30-Dec-2008 Tue 05:54] View Near Messages
RE: IanG on covering.

"Time for some real solid evidence of harm before we listen to the same old Victorian Values shite that we know achieves nothing and, indeed, leads people to covering up chair legs lest `some men` get turned on by them - now that`s really nuts isn`t it...and oh so bloody typically British...!"

One theory (which has some credit) is that the more stuff is covered up, the more fetishised it may become. I remember reading in Ed Husein`s "The Islamist" about how he went to Saudi and saw a bunch of well off Saudi youths discussing which of the local girls they`d like to slip it to. Now all these women were required, of course, to dress like ninjas with the floor length robe, the headscarf, the veil, etc. and Ed asked them how they could tell which were attractive and which less so under all this.

"By the eyes," one of them replied.

Rather interesting, methinks.

Also I have heard that the rate of sexual assaults and so forth in Islamic theocracies is pretty hefty, just swept under the carpet because of religious pressures not to talk about it. Similarly, in the Edwardian period, an age known for its straight-lacedness, all sorts of social problems took place, just that people didn`t talk about them. It`s only since the advent of tabloid journalism and what Michael Crichton calls the PLM (politico-legal-media complex) that we`ve started to hear about the full ugliness of human society.

Spiderschwein    [24220.   Posted 27-Dec-2008 Sat 08:38] View Near Messages
RE: Beheadings.

"If one goes on holiday to stay with New Labour`s friends the Saudi Arabians, one can go see A REAL one in the city square now and then. Even the children can go and watch if they want to. Perhaps they`ll even start to relay them live on the internet for the benefit of U.K. Muslims. Then the UK and Saudi can be busy censoring each others web sites."

Oh yes. It`s all good clean fun out in "Chop Chop Square" as the locals call it. Fridays just before afternoon prayers, there`s live amputations, stonings, beheadings, and so forth. Oh, and if any westerners are thereabouts it`s customary to push them to the front of the mob so they can see Islamic justice in action.

I`ve seen a video of an actual stoning to death and the thing that frightened me most about it wasn`t the gore, or the barbarity, or the bits of brain tissue seeping through the white shroud the condemned is bound in. It`s the mob factor. Nobody dares to be the one to stop chucking stones for fear of being seen to be soft on criminals.

I think stuff like that shouldn`t be censored. It should be disseminated even more widely with large letters underneath it saying, "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET RELIGION BECOME GOVERNMENT."

Spiderschwein    [24210.   Posted 25-Dec-2008 Thu 15:46] View Near Messages
RE: The Hokey Cokey.

I heard that as well. It apparently dates from the 18th century as a parody of the communion and so forth.

You put your left arm in (to get the wafer), left arm out, in out in out shake it all about (making the sign of the cross with it), you do the "hoc est corpus" and you turn around (to present it to the communee(?))... that`s what it`s all about!

Spiderschwein    [24185.   Posted 23-Dec-2008 Tue 09:45] View Near Messages
IDIOT, it`s in the public interest surely?

If the Danish internet watchdog claims to be only filtering kiddie porn, yet keeps the list secret, then how do we know they`re not filtering other things?

Spiderschwein    [24178.   Posted 23-Dec-2008 Tue 05:32] View Near Messages
RE: Beyer on soaps.

"They are all competing with each other to get the biggest audiences. They keep upping the ante to try to keep the ratings up and the logical conclusion is that they will end up alienating the audience."

Is it wrong that I agree with him on this one, and that soaps have, in fact, alienated me with their endless diet of gloomy nonsense and "hard hitting issues" and so forth?

Oh fuck. I just agreed with something that uppity bald virgin said.

/me shoots self in own head.

Spiderschwein    [24157.   Posted 20-Dec-2008 Sat 05:52] View Near Messages
RE: Napper.

"I read today that the dreadful sex killer Napper was "obsessed" by the story "The telltale heart". Wonder if NL will use that a justification for criminalise "possessing" the works of Edgar Allan Poe."

Dangerous Words Act anyone?

"But the Prince was dauntless and sagacious. He scorned the mere trappings of fa - DROP IT, CITIZEN!!!!"

RE: Censoriousness of NL.

While Wee Dave Cameron seems rather censorious he also seems less so than the Clunking Fist and that miserable Scottish cuntflap`s henchbanshees. Unfortunately he`ll probably not be PM. I suspect that he`ll pull a Kinnock next election. Somehow, people will take Gordon`s muddling through, taxing us all to buggery, and refusing, adamantly, to lower public spending while borrowing more, as being "decisive action" on the economy and NL will squeak back in.

I get the impression that people don`t care about their rights and liberties at all in Britain today, or censorship for that matter. For a nation whose press is willing to grill girls from nightclubs on the sexual performances and habits of miscellaneous celebrities theyve shagged, they aren`t half puritanical.

Spiderschwein    [24149.   Posted 19-Dec-2008 Fri 13:10] View Near Messages
Hey all.

Just got this month`s newsletter from Liberty, and here`s a few dates for the diary that I think might be relevant...

"Glitch: Tuesdays 20, 27 Jan and 3, 10 Feb at 17.30 and 19.00, and on Saturdays 24, 31 Jan and 7, 14 Feb at 13.00, 14.30, and 16.00"

"A 30 minute black comedy performance set in an imaginary near future. A lone travellerfinds herself trapped during an automated security check. Rather than succumb to the totalitarian surveillance, she attempts to outwit the machine and make a bid for freedom. Created and performed by Lois Tucker."

This is at the PACCAR Gallery and it`s free.

Also:

"Tuesday 3 February.

Who loves hate speech?

New speech crimes have been introduced to outlaw `hate speech` in the interests of community cohesion. However, some believe that free speech is a non-negotiable human right. Should we criminalise racism and sexual hatred? Or can we trust society to strike a balance between competing versions of freedom? Chaired by Lisa Appignanesi, President of English PEN, with panellists Germaine Greer, Francesca Klug, Rex Bloomstein and Peter Tatchell. Followed by a screening of Rex Bloomstein`s documentary An Independent Mind, in which eight people from around the world attempt to exercise their right to free expression.

Event Time 18.30 - 22.00

Location Conference Centre, British Library

Price £6 (£4 conc)"

Book on www.bl.uk/takingliberties.

Spiderschwein    [24104.   Posted 17-Dec-2008 Wed 15:21] View Near Messages
Prison, there`s a list as long as your arm of music videos that might fall foul of the DPA. Here`s a necessarily incomplete one.

Dimmu Borgir, "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" - Nick Barker flagellating a nude woman whilst smothered in fake blood.
Cradle of Filth, "From the Cradle To Enslave" - well, just about all of it really.
Cradle of Filth, "Babalon AD" - likewise, it depicts the creation of a snuff film (As an aside, Salter probably reckons that this is real.)
Cradle of Filth, "Mannequin" - asphyxiation.
Cannibal Corpse, erm, well, everything really.
Behemoth, "As Above So Below" - man crucified upside down while being pawed at by semi-nude girl.
Satyricon, "Mother North" - it involves a rather young looking Norwegian porno actress called Monica Braten, nude, with jets of flame flying everywhere.
Gorgoroth, "Carving a Giant" - nude crucifixion with blood running everywhere, etc.

Spiderschwein    [24102.   Posted 17-Dec-2008 Wed 14:26] View Near Messages
Scheisse! I just realised that my (rather dodgy quality) Rockbitch live vids would come under this.

Specifically, the clip to the song "Fist Fuck." Even though they make a big deal about lubing up, a "fist fuck, up to the wrist fuck" could conceivably cause serious damage to her breasts, anus, or genitals.

But this is what I find so grating about all this. Why should I, a responsible adult citizen with no criminal record, have to hammer my hard disk just because some fucking wowser says I might be turned into a snuff film producing dribbler by looking at it?

See, until I audited my F:\ drive just now I had no idea I had any of this.

The fact that the DPA will catch people unsuspectingly is another reason why I reiterate we need a defence fund to push test cases on evp. If we can mobilise thousands of people to get Rick Astley to Christmas Number One ahead of that X Factor warbler by getting them to each pay 79p to buy it off Itunes, we can get a similar number of folks to donate a similar amount to the cause... can`t we?

Spiderschwein    [23996.   Posted 10-Dec-2008 Wed 06:40] View Near Messages
RE: Australia.

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6011/

Here`s what Spiked has to say about the theoretical origins of what they`re calling the Great Firewall Reef.

Spiderschwein    [23931.   Posted 8-Dec-2008 Mon 03:58] View Near Messages
RE: Jackboots Straw on the Human Rights Act.

"In an interview with the Daily Mail, he says he is frustrated by the way the legislation he introduced ten years ago has sometimes been interpreted by the courts."

Translation: Straw reckons the courts should shut up and do as they`re told.

He could at least have the gallantry to say what he really means, the slimy little fartsucker. May he have to search for his children with a Geiger counter.

Spiderschwein    [23929.   Posted 7-Dec-2008 Sun 15:40] View Near Messages
"being healthy, staying safe, enjoying life, making a ‘positive contribution’ and achieving ‘economic well-being’."

Being healthy? This will probably be considered according to the Roy Meadows school of paediatric thought - that a body mass index 10% over the curve is unfortunate, but 20% is always negligence or poor parenting. Or that chocolate spread is evidence of covering up the marks from child abuse. But being expelled for being an ill-behaved little shit (I refuse to use the ridiculous term "permanently excluded") is just the kid expressing himself and he`d probably not have been expelled had he not been. Gnagh.

Staying safe? So, no school trips then. Bicycles yes, because they`re nice and green and sustainable, but not BMXing or downhill mountain biking (the latter of which, to be fair, I haven`t yet got the balls to try.) Skating is out because you might fall and crack something, and powerbocking is definitely out (if you`ve never seen `bocking, it`s bouncing round on a pair of giant leaf springs strapped to your feet and running and flipping alarmingly). Playground Football? Nope. Rugby? Definitely not.

Enjoying life? Christ alive... no dangerous or daring sporting activities, no tasty food... not bloody likely!

Making a positive contribution? To what? Society? Science? Art? Literature? The use of transitive verbs intransitively? I suspect that a positive contribution means one that NuLab will approve of.

Enjoying economic wellbeing? Again, not bloody likely considering how hard NuLab`s fucked the economy!

Spiderschwein    [23920.   Posted 7-Dec-2008 Sun 10:00] View Near Messages
Spoony, not to mention the Hutton Report which pretty much muzzled the BBC. Now all that venerable institution does is dress up press releases and pass them off as news, and occasionally go into self-flagellation mode when someone complains about it - viz. Jerry Springer The Opera, Russell Brand & Jonathan Ross shagging Manuel`s answering machine, and so forth.

The other channels are no better. Investigative journalism is hampered by the spectre of being branded "racist" or "Islamophobic" or "offensive."

Spiderschwein    [23917.   Posted 7-Dec-2008 Sun 08:24] View Near Messages
RE: Lad mags.

I don`t normally read them myself, because there`s only so much crowing about some Page 3 girl in the nuddy you can have before it gets tiresome.

I`ve even quite reading Bizarre because it`s no longer, well, bizarre, it`s just vaguely alternative types showing off their tattoos and so forth, whereas it used to have articles about The Great Voltini, electric stuntman, Parisian brothels in the "belle époque," offbeat psychological experiments, hybrid sports (like chessboxing, for instance), and reviews of truly awful porno films.

However, if this idea of BBFC-style ratings on mags and papers goes through, I`m going to trouser up to the newsagent and proclaim in a loud voice (esp. if any militant feminists are about) "HELLO THERE. CAN I HAVE THIS WEEK`S COPY OF NUTS, IF YOU PLEASE?"

RE: Students being turned in on themselves.

Yep, that`s happened. All student politics nowadays is about vague, inoffensive and hippyish issues like dropping third world debt, saving the environment, sniffing out potentially racist terminology, and Antifa-like nonsense. And not about anything that actually matters, such as the fact we`re having our hard won civil liberties sold down the river by a Scottish Occupation Government, the fact that we`re being regulated into oblivion, or suchlike. I remember that any attempt to raise these issues with my fellow students resulted in eye-rolling and sneers of, "Aren`t there greater injustices in the world?"

Spiderschwein    [23912.   Posted 7-Dec-2008 Sun 07:16] View Near Messages
RE: Virgin Killer.

And not just because of child porn, but because of the extreme porn ban as well.

I`m worried about getting pulled under the DPA because I have Dimmu Borgir`s "Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia."

Spiderschwein    [23902.   Posted 6-Dec-2008 Sat 08:07] View Near Messages
RE: ID cards and production of them on demand.

Notice that only people who`ve been outside the UK will be affected. I can`t help but feel that there`s a dangerously Stalinist "because they may have been infected with foreign, impure ideology" subtext to this.

Spiderschwein    [23875.   Posted 3-Dec-2008 Wed 14:05] View Near Messages
RE: Gor.

No, they`re not out of print. In fact, Wildside Publishing and E-reads have both reprinted them all in their entirety (although without the ace Boris Vallejo cover art!). You can also get them second hand fairly easily on Amazon - I scored the 9th one, "Marauders of Gor" for less than the price of a litre of petrol a few weeks back.

RE: TPE, consensual non consent and so forth.

That`s where the safe word comes in. Usually this will be something unlikely to be uttered in a scene, such as "red," "purple alligator," or even "spider schwein" if you will. Generally once this happens everything stops there and then. The concept of "consensual non consent" isn`t one I`ve actually heard before in those words, but I get the impression that it`s taken to mean that the consenting sub is consenting to EVERYTHING until such a time as the safe word is uttered.

Brenda Love`s highly informative "The Encyclopaedia of unusual sex practices," of which I had a copy a few years back but seem to have mislaid, refers to the practice of negotiating a slave contract before getting into any such arrangement. This may include a list of things that the sub is and isn`t willing to do, from spanking to rope bondage to breath-play to bloodsports. And also what the dom(me) expects of the sub and so forth. Negotiation in this respect is really important, as is researching and making sure that you`ll be careful with the more extreme end of things.

If you`re interested, here`s some precedent slave contracts:

http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/TPE/slave_contract.htm
http://www.milism.net/cache/336816/slave336816contract.htm

And here`s some general reading material on the concept.

http://www.milism.net/contract.htm

RE: Other possibly "dangerous" reading material.

I think I`m in for it. I`ve got a copy of "Histoire d`O" complete with its sequel, "Rétour a Roissy" in my room! Considering how in the 1980s the "sistahood" engaged in ritual burnings of this book, and German femifrother Alice Schwarzer referred to women engaging in such fantasies as "collaboration," I may be buggered...

Spiderschwein    [23868.   Posted 3-Dec-2008 Wed 06:40] View Near Messages
RE: Lee Thompson and the Goreans.

I think in a way you`re right about how he was a wee bit stitched up about it all. I first heard about this in 2006 when he was still in Darlington.

I do think there`s more to this than meets the eye - and a rich vein of "ergh, what a creephat" about it. In fact, I heard that the whole thing about her tearing up her passport was entirely consensual as well.

"Bizarre" magazine did an interview with him back then. I might dig it out and scan it if people want. While he is a bit of a fruit loop - he claimed that he`d been consistently hounded by the tabloid press over being a Gorean and that there were 50,000 Goreans in some sort of cult, of which he was the Grand Master, in Britain. Oh, and they got him to pose in manners akin to the covers of the novels with various girls for fun and profit. There was one where he was emulating the cover to "Hunters of Gor" in the vegetable aisle of his local supermarket.

But back to the point. Was he pimping? He`s admitted it, but who`s to say that wasn`t a plea bargain or something similar. I`m more worried about the association that this article - and the way the tabloids have reported it - might form in peoples` minds between BDSM and genuine creephattery. And also, given that there was an "influence" alleged - the Gorean novels - how long before Saltmines attempts an encore and tries to have banned "extreme pornographic literature?" Oh yes. I can see the bollox already. "We need to tackle the demand and close the loophole that allows trees to be sent against their will to Guatemala or Darlington and have low quality science fiction in which men are men and women are grateful forcibly imprinted on them."

Yellow journalism like this lends credence to the legal fiction of Spanner in the minds of the public.

RE: Spiked.

Yeah, I know it used to be "Living Marxism" magazine but it`s more of a libertarian publication now. Their columnists even opposed the banking bailout!

They still speak a lot of sense though. And they annoy George Monbiot, which is always a plus.

Spiderschwein    [23858.   Posted 2-Dec-2008 Tue 10:19] View Near Messages
From Spiked Online`s article on NuLab`s latest boneheaded proposition aimed at people enjoying themselves by putting cigarette-style warning labels on booze:

"That fear and loathing is itself a product of New Labour’s peculiar development in British politics, as a self-referencing clique of managers and technocrats with no genuine roots or connections in wider society. As such, their isolation from ordinary people has generated a succession of Labour ministers who are, at best, embarrassingly unworldly about adult life or absolutely petrified of the city they live and work in. One minister, Caroline Flint, said she ‘couldn’t believe that people actually go out to get drunk’; Harriet Harman couldn’t face touring the London district of Peckham - an area she has represented in parliament for 26 years - without wearing a stab-proof vest. This would be funny if New Labour’s jittery nerves didn’t have such destructive consequences on our freedoms and our lifestyles. "

(EDIT: Ooops, forgot to link it. http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/5987/)

I, on the other hand, can believe that people go out to get drunk. And I can`t help but sympathise with them. Britain is an increasingly Stalinist shitpit and there`s fuck all else to do because it`s been banned or taxed to death, or they`ve fucked the economy so hard that nobody can afford it any more.

Big Dinners? You can still do that but "junk food" taxes and official frowning means that anything tasty is ridiculously expensive.

Sport? Can`t be doing that, it might hurt the losers` feelings. And people might get hurt and we`ll get sued.

Live music? Went to see Cradle of Filth up the Forum last night. It was suitably amusing and Spinal Tap like (they had pyros and an iron golem on stage). The pit was heaving and afterwards several folks were engaging in that time-honoured metal ritual of comparing mosh casualties. I`m surprised that moshing`s not been banned because people might get hurt and following the Spanner trials you can`t consent to injuries being inflicted on yourself and by engaging in such brutality and depravity it fuels the demand for actual violent crimes being committed and we`re only closing a loophole anyhow.

Smoking? Been taxed to death and banned. Oh, and fag packets now look like grindcore album covers. Why doesn`t someone just cut the crap and launch a cigarette brand called "Cancer Sticks" or something? It`d fly off the shelves, methinks.

Downloading pornography? Half of it`s been banned. The other half will get you sued unless you pay the ridiculous subscription fees.

Hunting? Banned at the behest of a load of hippies, crusties, bunnyhuggers and general soap dodgers because they got all butthurt about a few fucking foxes, despite there being more important issues at stake. Petty little cunts the lot of them. I fuck them and I fuck whoever does not fuck them.

Reading? All the interesting stuff is only published here in small doses because of libel tourism and now because the author might get locked up for procuring misconduct in a public office.

Wenching? Not on a commercial basis you can`t. And on a non-commercial basis you`ll probably have to get written consent in the form of a deed that`s signed, attested, and delivered before too long.

Films? They`re all banned unless you`re willing to accept sanitised versions.

TV? Bugger all on anyhow if you`re not into former zelebrities slurping wallaby spunk, press releases dressed up in fancy graphics, crap American serials, or football. And it`s taxed to buggery anyhow.

Comix? "Pseudo photographs help to fuel the demand..." Oh do fuck off. Melinda Gebbie and Alan Moore`s "Lost Girls" did a lot less damage to society than Operation Ore, and that is a FACT.

Comedy? Nope. Anything funny`s been banned because it might cause offence to someone who`s willing to I. sue you, II. whine about it until you get prosecuted for incitement to religious hatred, III. both.

So you see, all there is now is the demon drink. Ugh.

Spiderschwein    [23842.   Posted 30-Nov-2008 Sun 08:36] View Near Messages
"Changing the subject slightly I saw in the Bangkok Post that the Indonesian Clerics behind the new anti porn laws all have underaged wives - the leading one`s wife is 12 for fucks sake - and their critics are saying the porn law was a smokesecreen to hide their own immorality. These clerics replied that its perfect acceptable in Islam for men to have pre-pubescent wives. Now I`m waiting for some smart arse muslim in the UK to use that as a defense against statutory rape."

At which point when there was justifiable hoohar over this creephat there`d be another load of Islamic types frothing and saying that condemnation of marrying girls that young is all racist. After all, there are those that do go into a froth upon non-Muslims questioning the whole affair with Aisha and her age at marriage...

Spiderschwein    [23833.   Posted 29-Nov-2008 Sat 10:17] View Near Messages
I genuinely think that if NuLab aren`t out by 2010 I might as well buy ten tons of tinned food and an AK-47 and go and live on a survivalist compound.

Spiderschwein    [23825.   Posted 28-Nov-2008 Fri 13:48] View Near Messages
RE: Legal clarity.

In fact it goes back even further than that. I think it was Cicero who said that an unclear law is no law at all?

RE: Arrest of that Tory MP for passing on leaked documents.

This is very, very, very, very, very dodgy. As Tony Benn said on C4 News this evening, sometimes governments seek to render documents confidential simply because it would embarrass them. I wonder what`s in there that they don`t want us to know about?

It would be so ironic if it was some non-doctored figures on trafficking for sex in Britain. I can see Hattie Harmful and Batty Smith frothing till they pop if that gets out!!!

Spiderschwein    [23804.   Posted 26-Nov-2008 Wed 12:46] View Near Messages
RE: Hardy on the BNP.

That doesn`t surprise me. There does seem to be a double standard between "bad bigotry" and "good bigotry." Bad bigotry is what the BNP engage in. Good bigotry is claiming that without all these anti-racism coordinators and frothers about discrimination, the white working class would devolve into incorrigible bigotry, or claiming that blacks and Asians who vote Tory are "Uncle Toms," like what that ridiculous meeja idiot Yasmin Alibhai Brown has.

Spiderschwein    [23801.   Posted 26-Nov-2008 Wed 08:15] View Near Messages
Also...

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/5969/

Spiderschwein    [23800.   Posted 26-Nov-2008 Wed 08:11] View Near Messages
RE: Liberty.

Sometimes I question their libertarian credentials. For instance, they were hoping to compromise on 42 day detention by sticking up for "post charge questioning." Which is just as bad in that it provides the authorities <I>carte blanche</I> to "fish" for evidence.

Spiderschwein    [23791.   Posted 25-Nov-2008 Tue 14:21] View Near Messages
Oh bollox.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7746494.stm

I`ve seen it all now.

I think I need a new username, mine has been deemed to be offensive in German.

RE: The Budget.

I can`t help but feel that they`re actually planning to lose the next election, but make such a huge mess out of everything that when the Tories take over they immediately get the blame for everything running to shit. As such, they will then be voted out in short order and the Clunking Fist and his mates come back for more once the economy`s on the rebound and continue to sovietise the nation further.

Spiderschwein    [23777.   Posted 23-Nov-2008 Sun 09:36] View Near Messages
Stink.

"They are not in this country.
Nor are they British.

They are simply being held by us in Iraq"

Which means they are subject to the British justice system, a cornerstone of which is that they are innocent until proven guilty and have the right to legal representation.

One of the reasons why I support this is because we, as a nation, must not descend to their level of punishment without trial, torture, and summary execution.

This does not, of course, mean that I think they`re innocent. If it proven that they are the murderous scumheaps that they are charged with being, then by all means lock them up for a very, very, very long time.

"So no, you`re wrong. On so many levels. Not least of which are those common decency, common sense and moral ones."

I`m being immoral because I support the idea that people are innocent until proven guilty?

By all the saints, that`s almost as boneheaded as claiming that freedom of speech is racist!

Come back when you`ve finished reading the Sun.

Spiderschwein    [23775.   Posted 23-Nov-2008 Sun 07:12] View Near Messages
Stink.

"And the British taxpayer should indeed pay for their defense."

But of course. We do still have the presumption of innocence in this country... right? And that presumption should apply to everyone... right?

Well then.

Spiderschwein    [23770.   Posted 22-Nov-2008 Sat 08:41] View Near Messages
Stink.

"just what a false victimhood Muslims wallow in!"

At the debate I mentioned on here on Thursday, one of the contributors, a gentleman in a mobile phone salesman`s suit, claimed that freedom of speech was a racist concept because it allowed insulting of Islam as a religion like the Undercover Mosque programmes and Theo van Gogh and Ayaan Hirsi Ali`s film "Submission" (note the conflation of objective criticism and offensiveness) and that to thus offend "the world`s fastest growing religion" was a "declaration of war."

At this point I was reminded of a widely used picture on FSTDT with regard to when fundamentalist Christians in the US crow about their religion being persecuted by an atheist majority. It was a pie chart of the religious affiliations of US citizens with a speech bubble saying "HELP! WE`RE BEING PERSECUTED!" coming from the Christian segment.

Spiderschwein    [23761.   Posted 21-Nov-2008 Fri 09:02] View Near Messages
RE: P4P.

Never fear... That hypocritical Guardianista sow Julie Bindel`s here!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/nov/21/prostitution-jacquismith

On the plus side, at least where know where Russell T. Davies got his idea for an army of strawmen in Doctor Who`s episode "Human Nature" from.

I notice that the number of trafficked women in Britain`s gone up to 80,000. They`re not even consistent liars.

Quote of the article:

"The idea that anyone would inject anaesthetic into their vagina is a stark reminder of the trade`s brutality."

...WTF?

Spiderschwein    [23749.   Posted 20-Nov-2008 Thu 16:21] View Near Messages
RE: Muslim Manifesto.

Today I gained first hand experience of what a lot of Muslims think of British culture and identity and suchlike.

Went to this debate up at college about freedom of speech. The motion was "Freedom of speech has failed" and on one side, a Mohammed Hanif who bellowed a lot about how it`s all a cover for discrimination and it`s not the freedom to offend. On the other side, some chap I`ve never heard of called Dolan Cummings who was from the National Secular Society, who spoke quite calmly and measuredly and logically about why the freedom to offend is the price you pay for the marketplace of ideas.

It was at this point I noticed that I and two others were the only folks there without beard or headscarf.

Anyhow, so there was about 45 minutes back and forth between those two, then they started inviting people up to pass their comments. I was one of those and commented firstly that the idea of freedom of speech not meaning the freedom to offend can - and has - been used to stifle legitimate criticism and discourse, with specific reference to how the measured (albeit piss-weak) journalism of Channel 4`s "Undercover Mosque" and "Undercover Mosque II" was immediately seized on by certain elements of society as being offensive and should have been censored. And also I mentioned that offensiveness is the price you pay for freedom of speech - although the signal to noise ratio, so to speak, is increased with no censorship, more "signal" gets through.

Anyhow, I don`t need you to tell me that the audience were not particularly sympathetic to that one. I think they blocked it out.

After me, up came some woman dressed like a ninja - albeit with no katana on her shoulder but a massive fjoerking chip - and ranted that "freedom of speech" is simply a disguise for mindless attacks on Islam and that it was effectively, in reality, a racist concept.

Ugh.

Then up came some veck in a mobile phone salesman`s suit who claimed that freedom of speech was the worst thing ever. He claimed that it was no coincidence that an increasing remit for it had led to unprecedented levels of moral turpitude, binge drinking, fornication, decadence, and so forth - in short, fun, but I suspect he was too arsing pure to look down when taking a piss in case he noticed what his God had put between his legs, so... yer. He claimed it was no coincidence that some teenager in Glasgow had been accused of eight sexual assaults in two hours and that Baby P happened considering the rampant abuses of freedom of speech that were about today.

Seriously. According to this type, freedom of speech tortures babies.

I wish they`d not ended it all on that note. I was just about to explain that correlation does not necessarily equal causation and that when contemplating any such rise in one factor with regard to another, you need to have regard of all the circumstances. And besides, papers put these on the front pages because it sells.

I can now understand where Liberty Stink gets his froth from.

Am I going to go to the next debate organised by the "Politics Society?" Ohhh yes. I wouldn`t miss the possibility of lowering the average fail in Britain for the world.

Actually, if I can ingratiate myself into it enough, maybe I could try and get something going on the P4P ban. Maybe get an Islamic bellower to line up against someone from the Collective of Prostitutes and watch the fireworks.

Better still, get her to ostentatiously go aside with him and say "Is Friday night okay for your next appointment?" That would be BRUTAL.

Spiderschwein    [23731.   Posted 19-Nov-2008 Wed 14:03] View Near Messages
Re: The BNP.

Not a member. Not a fan. A minority party for fruitloops.

But the last time people were hounded out their jobs for belonging to a certain political party, it was called McCarthyism and roundly condemned.

Oh, but they were hounded out their jobs for being left, weren`t they, so they`re some sort of big damn martyrs, whereas BNP members who are fired for being BNP members are fascist scum infiltrators...

Double standards much?

Spiderschwein    [23718.   Posted 19-Nov-2008 Wed 06:26] View Near Messages
Spoonbender, the Tories are down to a 3% lead because they`ve flunged their position on the economy and allowed the Clunking Fist an opening or two on it.

Thing is, though, most folks don`t give a fiddler`s fart about big government or the database state or mass surveillance. They`re simply content to put up with it.

When the economy was on the up, they didn`t care about melonfarming issues because they were too giddy with excitement over a multitude of instant gratification kit.

Now the economy`s on the down, they don`t care about melonfarming issues because they`re too preoccupied with - and public discourse is full up with - prophecies of doom about how in two years` time the Middle East or the Russians or the Chinese are going to own us.

Meanwhile, Gordo continues to borrow and spend, borrow and spend, which is the financial equivalent of trying to wriggle free of quicksand and which is why we`re so affected by the credit crunch, and anyone who proposes economically sound measures like, I dunno, taking the axe to the public sector (there`s several billion pounds` worth of intrusive and unnecessary databases, pointless paper-pushers, and ticky-box mentality bureaucrats we can liquidate yano) is immediately smeared as wanting to go around sacking nurses.

Spiderschwein    [23708.   Posted 18-Nov-2008 Tue 12:42] View Near Messages
And also, what`s the betting that there`s going to be some more early intervention into family and private life in the near future, what with Baby P and so forth?

I can just see it now. Here comes MacShane or Harrperson or Coaker, ready to capitalise on your emotions some more and glurge at us some ill-thought out legislation that won`t save a single child from abuse but which will criminalise the innocent left right and centre?

Satanic Ritual Abuse, anyone?

Spiderschwein    [23707.   Posted 18-Nov-2008 Tue 05:19] View Near Messages
RE: The ban on P4P.

Hold on a second. Joan Smith romantically involved with pro-ban minister Denis MacShane? Ahem. I thought those feministy types were supposed to be against shagging your way into positions of power?

Spiderschwein    [23701.   Posted 17-Nov-2008 Mon 03:01] View Near Messages
Freeworld.

RE: The Prisoner.

I can`t help but feel that NuLab isn`t aiming at The Prisoner so much as at Terry Gilliam`s "Brazil."

Spiderschwein    [23655.   Posted 10-Nov-2008 Mon 12:54] View Near Messages
Have a Harman quote:

"It`s obvious David Cameron doesn`t understand what women and families care about. He wants women for one thing - their votes."

(from http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-promises-tax-cuts-to-halve-job-losses-1008895.html)

He understands better than you Harrperson. What with your overreaction to harmless protestors like Fathers 4 Justice and your constant downer on everyone except your fellow "wimmin," I think he has a better idea than you have... mate.

Spiderschwein    [23650.   Posted 9-Nov-2008 Sun 15:13] View Near Messages
Speaking of prostitution, did anyone see "Stephen Fry in America" just now, in which he visited a legal, regulated brothel in Nevada?

Controlled for another`s gain? Nope. In fact, the idea of having independent working girls under a contractual relationship with the madam, who provides the premises and use thereof in return for a percentage. They even got one of the working girls on camera, who told him that she very much enjoyed her job and so forth.

In a way the whole segment reminded me of the old French "maisons closes" in both ambit and style.

No doubt there are probably anti-sex feminists queueing now to further put the hammer to the BBC for glorifying, encouraging, and condoning such activities because it feeds the demand and they`re all really coerced into it by the white male patriarchical hegemony... ugh. Spare me.

Speaking as a red-blooded male, given the choice between a legal, regulated, paid for shag in a "maison close" with a professional who enjoyed her job and was required by law to be disease free and so forth, or an illicit quickie up behind the Dog and Trumpet with some scag-addled whore who I`d find later to have given me the pox, I know which I`d select thankya kindly. And it`s not the one that`ll increasingly result from adopting the Swedish Model.

Spiderschwein    [23645.   Posted 9-Nov-2008 Sun 06:30] View Near Messages
Re: ID cards.

"Anyone who wants a card can register their interest on a website. They would be then selected at random to become early adopters of the cards. The cards will enable holders to travel around Europe without a passport."

Once you get off this septic isle, though, thanks to the Schengen declaration, you can travel round the EU without a passport anyhow. You can hop on a train in Seville and get off in Gdánsk and nobody will have checked your passport once, even though you`ve crossed most of Europe.

In fact, when I was living in Paris I often found it easier to go by train overnight than to fly. Less queueing, less bumping out to the middle of nowhere to get to the airport, and you didn`t waste the best part of a day flying.

Spiderschwein    [23639.   Posted 8-Nov-2008 Sat 10:13] View Near Messages
Oh for fjoerk`s sake. I remember that suicide bombing game from nearly seven years ago.

Haven`t they got better things to do than pick on aged internet flash games?

Spiderschwein    [23631.   Posted 6-Nov-2008 Thu 10:42] View Near Messages
Oh, and something else:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm

I can wait to have an ID card. I can wait till 2014, which is when my passport expires and at which point I`m emigrating unless the NIR has been scrapped by then.

Spiderschwein    [23630.   Posted 6-Nov-2008 Thu 10:30] View Near Messages
Also... JESUS FUCK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7713333.stm

How will they define "comfortably off," I wonder?

So THAT`s what they`re cutting to pay for the bank bailout.

So £2 billion a year`s unsustainable. But how much will it cost to run the NIR or these new giant databases or the legions of cuntcil bureaucrats, hm? A lot more than £2 billion, I trow!

Oh, and before you point to top legal aid lawyers trousering two million a year or more after tax, don`t bother. These will be the very top QCs and the like in their fields and will have substantial other forms of income from their work or related to their work - such as royalties from writing books or contributing to practitioner texts or professional journals, or from writing opinions for interested parties. Behind every one of these folks, there will almost certainly be a team of non-"name brand" lawyers who do all the legwork for an increasingly modest pay cheque but still do it because to them, the principle is more important.

I don`t like to say what I`m about to because it`s often rather a trite comment. But this is little more than class warfare.

Spiderschwein    [23629.   Posted 6-Nov-2008 Thu 09:20] View Near Messages
Harvey, now you mention it, I am confusing her with someone else. Though I don`t think I can be blamed too much. These New Labour women all look the same to me.

Spiderschwein    [23627.   Posted 6-Nov-2008 Thu 05:45] View Near Messages
I`d just like to mention something re. Hazel Blears.

How dare she call anyone cynical and nihilistic when she sent a memo to her entire department on 9/11 saying, "this is a good day to bury bad news."

Spiderschwein    [23618.   Posted 5-Nov-2008 Wed 11:16] View Near Messages
BOD.

"We recently had a visit from the local authority to ensure everyone in the household was on the voters register. Apparently now you`re breaking the law and fined if you don`t submit your details. I wonder if this as anything to do with collation of data for the new lets keep tabs on you with 28 peices of personal data stored on a micro chip ID cards. phew that was a mouthful........"

What the fjoerk?

Since when has this been so?

Wouldn`t surprise me if it was so. I just Westlawed "electoral register" and I couldn`t find anything requiring one to be on that on pain of fine. That being said, I may not have been looking in the right places. Guess under which act it`s not an offence to "offer to reprogramme a mobile telephone?" Yep, the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006.

Spiderschwein    [23593.   Posted 1-Nov-2008 Sat 06:38] View Near Messages
Spoonbender, that`s because it has.

But what do you expect from the Americans anyhow. They`re so puritanical they can`t even look at Janet Jackson`s tit without going into a conniption.

And unfortunately US levels of puritanism are being imported into Britain.

I thought the reason we let them go over there in the first place was to keep all the puritanical frothers out of our hair?

Spiderschwein    [23581.   Posted 30-Oct-2008 Thu 10:41] View Near Messages
Axis45.

"Brand is a huge talent"

Wrong, he`s an unfunny self-promoting twat.

But that`s your affair. Like Freeworld said, if you want to fork out so overpaid former junkie scum like him can spout off about having shagged Manuel`s granddaughter, then be my guest. Just don`t make other people do it.

My objection to Brand and Woth is not that they were offensive, it was that they weren`t funny. I could walk up to someone aged and say "BUHH I FUCKED YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER AND SHE SHORE WAS FINE" but it would be unfunny and probably would get me punched. So why, when some smug, preening pretend bad boy who`s really a former stage school brat does so, why is it automatically amusing?

Exactly.

To be frank, I wouldn`t bat an eyelid if the BBC became a subscription service like Canal+ in France - which is their best channel by far and away. You need to fork out extra to see the majority of its channels anyhow, so...

Though the commercial viability of that is a whole other question.

Back on topic, though, I suggest, axis45, you read this.

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Russell+Brand

Spiderschwein    [23566.   Posted 29-Oct-2008 Wed 13:14] View Near Messages
And the Murdoch press follows on mercilessly, because once Brand and Ross are fired from the BBC then Sky can hire them at a knock down price.

Spiderschwein    [23560.   Posted 29-Oct-2008 Wed 06:20] View Near Messages
BOD, it wouldn`t surprise me.

Then again, "Noncewatch" has to be one of the most ridiculous things I`ve ever seen. And the folks who maintain it are probably the sort of strutting, meaningless dimbulbs who think that the NHS should cut all funding for paediatricians.

But neo-nazi groups attract strutting, meaningless dimbulbs like moths to a flame, so...

Shaun.

"because real life censorious people tend not to swear in public, unlike you."

Ever encountered that fat American wankstain Xavier Von Erck and his mates at Perverted Justice? They use the same sort of tone as this C18 earsling and probably would support the DPA, OPA, tighter internet monitoring, and so forth in the name of cleansing all the 50,000 "predators" they claim are on the Internet. They also rag on Europe for having an age of consent that`s "disgustingly low" in their view (although let`s be frank... while it may be "rape" for people under 18 in the US to shag, even consensually, it`s an open secret that the average age at which people over there pop their cork is about 15 or so.)

But then again, just like Salter and Beyer and the Murdoch press, Von Erck and the other PeeJ`ers are only in it for the self-aggrandisement and the warm, fuzzy glow of easy money from their TV show and the commercial leverage of being a minor household name.

Of course, I personally think that Von Erck (real name Phillip Eide) is far, far, far, creepier than any paedophile and probably is one himself. Why else would he host a site in which he and his mates pretend to be teenage girls on Internet chat rooms, I wonder, other than for five-knuckle-shuffle purposes?

C18.

Haven`t you got a Jeremy Kyle application to fill out, boy?

Spiderschwein    [23543.   Posted 27-Oct-2008 Mon 15:47] View Near Messages
Why doesn`t someone targeted by the Stun just come right out and say "Rebekah Wade, you`re an unprincipled, worthless, spineless, sycophantic cunt who has nothing better to do than dredge endless nonsense about people and their careers just to sell more copies of your overpriced toilet roll of a paper. I will have a free public orgy in the locale where your funeral is to be held. You bag of the scum. A monkey is your uncle."

Seriously, it`d not only be the truth, it`d be a marketing move as well. I really hadn`t a clue who Katy Perry was too much until "I Kissed a Girl" and now this knife pic started being splayed around the press. Likewise with other people I know. If she chewed out Murdoch or Wade or Mackenzie like that, not only would the outrage in the Sun and their brainless readership make her a household name overnight, but other folks would actually go and buy her stuff just so spite the basts.

It worked for Cradle of Filth. In 1997 they were just another turbo-speed extreme metal band, then in 1998 that "JESUS IS A CUNT" band shirt came out and their notoriety exploded in all directions, even bagging a slot in the BBC series "Living with the enemy."

Spiderschwein    [23540.   Posted 27-Oct-2008 Mon 12:03] View Near Messages
Stink.

"I can quote the fact that Muslims in the name of Islam have carried out 12116 further terrorist attacks around the world SINCE 9/11."

I`m going to take a leaf out of Wikipedia`s book and say "citation needed."

That being said, I don`t honestly worry that one day I`ll get on a bus and the intense, unshaven man next to be with a giant rucksack with shout out, "ALLAHU AKHBAR!!!" with 72 Virginians on his mind and 72 pounds of TNT about his person.

Why not? Because of those 12116 attacks you claim happened since September 11, 2001, I suspect the vast majority will have been carried out in traditionally Muslim countries by Islamists of various stripes who want to overthrow a government or power they see as following the wrong school of thought or theology or whatever.

Spiderschwein    [23522.   Posted 25-Oct-2008 Sat 15:07] View Near Messages
Dave.

"I never really understand why guys get wound up by other guys being gay. I`d of thought that straight guys would be advantaged by the reduced competition for the girls."

A few years back I knew a bloke called Omar. Omar was gay. And because he was gay, and with several of the associations that that had and that he fostered (being knowledgeable about the rag trade, high fashion, the theatre, and celebrity bollox), there were several girls who were more than willing to try to convert him.

One succeeded. But a cynical part of me can`t help but feel that he was deliberately, well, gaying it up, in order to attract a certain type of woman and he was more flexible than he let on. Yano, trying to tap into the metrosexual market, if you will.

I don`t mind gay men. I do mind metrosexuality though. They could at least have the gallantry to openly say, "I`m straight as a ruler. But I`m willing to pose as being in touch with my feminine side. Aren`t I edgy and paradigm-challenging?" Pretending to be gay in order to score with women. It`s pathetic - and worse, boring.

Then again, I`m only jealous that I`m too ugly to really pull that sort of thing off...

Spiderschwein    [23506.   Posted 23-Oct-2008 Thu 14:39] View Near Messages
Phantom, Dano.

And while we`re at it, let`s ban fencing. It glorifies the use of weaponry and calls it "sport." Wasn`t there someone who was slashed by a thug with a katana a while back?

Well then.

Oh, and also let`s ban the Italian metal band Rhapsody:

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/3/2/32_photo.jpg

Spiderschwein    [23495.   Posted 22-Oct-2008 Wed 16:09] View Near Messages
Harvey.

"I can`t help wondering what sort of crap they have on an `internet sex offenders treatment programme.`"

Though I don`t approve of what she did, I remember US authorities got Mary Kay LeTourneau (teacher convicted of statutory rape for having an affair with a 13 year old student) to have to confront her children and promist that she`d try really, really, hard not to rape them.

Wouldn`t surprise me if they had the same sort of thing here for people convicted of offences under the DPA.

Seriously, folks like Salter deserve to fall through thin ice. Though I personally hope he himself gets banged up on "extreme pornography" charges. The day that happens, I will throw a free public orgy, with half a pint of whipped cream, gimp masks, and riding crops available free also.

Spiderschwein    [23484.   Posted 21-Oct-2008 Tue 16:53] View Near Messages
Ovlies.

"Though no actual child has been abused, it helps to feed the demand."

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!

What about the cover of Cannibal Corpse`s 1992 album "Tomb of the Mutilated," which features a painting of zombies doing the soixante-neuf. Does that feed the demand for people to look at actual necrophilia porn?

What about the TV series "24" which routinely has Jack Bauer slapping the testicular electrodes onto some ne`er do well? Doesn`t that feed the demand for actual footage of peoples` yablokos being shocked?

What about that bit from the Bible where God says unto Samuel (I think) to go and smite Amalech and slay every man woman and child, ox, and ass? Doesn`t that fuel the demand for actual footage of genocide, hm?

Considering the box-ticky attitude of folks in the Western world in general with regard to kids and sex, and the interface between the two, I heartily expect to see a repeat of one incident in 1999 in the US, in which a comix dealer was pulled up on a complaint of "distributing obscenity to a minor." What did he do? Sold a teenager a copy of "ElfQuest - New Blood" issue #11 (I think.)

Indeed, speaking of comix in general... how the fjoerk are we supposed to know how old the characters are???