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SasaMisa    [27077.   Posted 1-Aug-2010 Sun 12:39] View Near Messages
Thanks everyone!

It is a bit too soon to tell if the weight loss is having an effect, although it can`t be a bad thing. With any luck, the blood test I`ve got lined up for this Wednesday will indicate at least a step in the right direction.

As for this damn Cartoon Porn Law: if the Government still contains even a modicum of supporters like that jwills in the thread I just replied to again, I think I`ll soon be writing from a prison cell. Just as the way Ofcom really gets IanG`s goat (sorry for mentioning them), I dismay that people like that can even exist in the so called `era of reason`.

I guess Kahlil Gibran was wrong when he said, "Yesterday we obeyed kings and bent our necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to truth, follow only beauty, and obey only love." (-_-)

SasaMisa    [27069.   Posted 29-Jul-2010 Thu 14:24] View Near Messages
Hey everybody!

I`ve been around, just not actively posting due to prediabetes. Seriously, it leaves you constantly tired and only losing a massive amount of weight (3 stone so far), plus a radical change to my diet and exercise regime of course, has turned things around. Even so, I still have quite a long way to go.

My health aside, I just wanted to ask pbr if he`s been following the Cartoon Porn Law repeal thread. I`ve put a couple of comments up on there myself tonight, if anyone would like to check them out:-

http://yourfreedom.hmg.gov.uk/repealing-unnecessary-laws/repeal-laws-on-drawn-pornography

Given how badly the original campaign against it went, I`m very skeptical that anything will come of this though - what does everyone else think? Indeed, what laws if any really do stand a chance of going in the shredder!?

SasaMisa    [25654.   Posted 8-Jul-2009 Wed 02:46] View Near Messages
pbr [25653]

Well, it`s not like we weren`t expecting this. It`s precisely why I made my site private at the beginning of the month as I knew this would happen. Seriously, do you think even one of those old fogies in The Lords knows what hentai is, I doubt it! All they see is the phrase "kiddy porn" tagged on the end of the bill which, just like it did in Canada, results in an instant 100% agreement with it, regardless of the consequences.

All this not one day after the IWF begin a new campaign to make CP look like a far worse problem online than it actually is (no doubt with their hand out to the Government at the same time). How`s that for timing? Now they can claim `perverted Japanese artwork` is a scourge that must be removed from society. They may have failed with Girls Aloud, but you can be sure they`ll have far better success when they start quoting the usual "cartoons are for kids" mantra, you just watch.

Ironically, a recent survey in Japan shows that the general populace don`t want simple possession made illegal, whether it be real or not, which I happen to think is a sensible approach. Just as with the war on drugs, picking at the leaves of a weed is never going to root out the real evil: the suppliers and distributors. Arresting harmless fanboys like me won`t result in even one kid being saved since I have no interest in them. Indeed, the abuse will go on behind close doors as it always has, and the sooner the likes of the NSPCC wake up to this fact the better.

SasaMisa    [25589.   Posted 27-Jun-2009 Sat 10:03] View Near Messages
emark [25588]

Hmm, you`re right about all the comments being deleted from that site as I left quite a sizeable one myself. So did another guy on my own forum, come to think of it, after I linked directly to that page the same night.

Talk about removing anything that doesn`t agree with your point of view, and I say this after checking about a bit since older articles appear to have their comments sections intact (meaning, it`s doubtful it`s caused by a system-wide error on the site).

You can call me paranoid if you want, but given this rotten government`s track record during its last term, this reeks of censorship. I mean, weren`t they doing the exact same thing just last month with YouTube, when `Gordo` realised no-one gave two shits about him or his speech and were gearing up to say exactly that in spades.

SasaMisa    [25464.   Posted 13-Jun-2009 Sat 13:21] View Near Messages
pbr [25463]

It was never meant to have a direct impact, just like all the anti-loli laws worldwide weren`t. They are designed to instill fear of arrest in the populace so they self-censor themselves, which is after all, a much cheaper way of getting rid of all the things the Neo-Cons don`t approve of.

SasaMisa    [25462.   Posted 13-Jun-2009 Sat 11:04] View Near Messages
freeworld [25459]

As far as I`m concerned, your fancy reply can be summed up in two words: `loli-hater`. Not only do you totally miss the points pbr & I are making, you don`t even try to hide the fact that you actually buy into all the crap the child advocates peddle on a daily basis. Seriously, this nonsense about grooming gets on my nerves and does not justify criminalising me and my friends for something we MAY do. Do you seriously think depriving me of my hobby is going to make any difference at the end of the day, other than perhaps driving me to suicide when I feel your world of pure mediocrity is no longer worth living in.

Something else, is that you don`t even bother to look at the evidence gathered from outside of our pathetic little island. It`s a cold hard fact every country that has enacted this pointless legislation has had no success whatsoever with it. Of the few arrests that have hit the news over the years, most if not all of the perpetrators were harmless saps like myself who wouldn`t hurt anyone in the first place, simply because we`re too busy drooling over 2D girls to care about the real thing. If your argument carried even an ounce of weight, Japan would have the worse rates of child abuse on the planet, which it clearly doesn`t. What they do have though, is a far more open attitude to sex, which crummy religion has always denied us in the West, causing no end of problems in the process.

More to the point, child abuse rates haven`t gone down at all in countries like Canada & Australia DESPITE the draconian legislation over the last decade. Now I wonder why that is? Could it be that our little dears are far more likely to be molested within their own families, or by those in positions of responsibility. No, it can`t be, can it, since you and your kind are telling us that otaku like me have apparently assuming that role... oh, after too much Simpsons porn has driven us to become slavering beasts, who go beserk at the mere scent of real loli pussy before proceeding to go on a raping spree across the country.

Well, that`s your theory anyway, except after 25 years of preferring toon girls to the real thing, I still have no urge whatsoever to abuse anyone. Actually, I never did because it`s morally wrong, which round about every artist/fan I`ve ever known agrees wholeheartedly with. For sure, you insult all of us by implying we could commit such a terrible act. Even people that are bona fied paedophiles (which incidentally, isn`t a crime in itself and is far more widespread than most people would like to admit) aren`t automatically molestors either. If they were, sites like 12chan wouldn`t exist and every one of them would be out humping the first kid they could get their hands on, regardless of the consequences.

No, the few nutjobs that do want to hurt real children have no interest in images period, let alone cartoon characters. I know, because I`ve talked to some in the past before telling them to sling their hook from my site. They aren`t interested in Sears catalogue imagery either, believe me, actively wanting to see children getting abused, nothing less. As far as actual molestors are concerned, the child isn`t even important. Their innocence must be destroyed and in this regard, these monsters are almost the antithesis of what most paedophiles are really about, as in those who love children. Indeed, these are the ones the police should be concentrating on, not harmless basement dwellers who couldn`t commit such a crime even if they wanted to, just the same as me.

In conclusion, like the clearly mentally unbalanced child support advocates, who now seem to consider fictional children more important than real ones, I think you are basically dumping your feelings of ill will on someone else, which is no different from the gay bashing of the past. You don`t approve of what I`m interested in, so you come up with a load of fancy rhetoric to stir up public sentiment and scare my kind in line. Unfortunately for you, it doesn`t disguise your real agenda: censorship, pure and simple since no evidence to support your grandiose claims exists.

Making up terms like `grooming` is not a valid defence and neither is claiming all artists/fans are potential molestors either. I actually found that incredibly insulting when I read the totally biased consultation back in early 2007, and even more so when Maria Eagle started banging on about it like she was an expert on the subject. As I said, I find the concept of prostitution quite unpalatable and could never go that far, but I wouldn`t tell anyone who likes that sort of thing what they can or can`t do in the privacy of their own home and they shouldn`t do the same with me either. The way I see it, they can pass this law, and I`ll take great pleasure in challenging it under the HRA since it clearly conflicts with my right to draw what I bloody well wish.

SasaMisa    [25458.   Posted 12-Jun-2009 Fri 13:16] View Near Messages
pbr [25455]

My point exactly, but given I`ve seen freeworld extolling the Tories more than once on here over the last few months, his attitude isn`t that surprising. I mean, the very definition of `conservative` is one who opposes change and is afraid of radical new ideas. Heh, and they don`t come any more radical than Japan`s incredibly varied pornographic industry, which makes ours look positively boring by comparison.

It`s also interesting to note that several posts back, he was saying almost the exact opposite, and I quote:-

"The only sort of censorship justifiable is to keep certain material away from minors. Nobody is justified in censoring what other adults see and read. Equally, only material like porn produced thru criminal acts should be illegal to possess, for only in that case is a "user" therby guilty of a "crime" too, being an accessory to criminal exploitation, and possibly worse."

No-one, including myself, would argue with his statement here, so why the sudden outburst against my harmless little fetish. It is that he feels, like that crazy Australian judge, imaginary lolis now have human rights and thus should be free of exploitation as well. Assuming that to be the case, perhaps he should send the law round to my flat, so they can liberate all the poor Simpsons characters I`m keeping captive here for my own sick, twisted pleasure (actually, given my preferences, it`s more like the other way around, especially where Jessica is concerned).

SasaMisa    [25454.   Posted 12-Jun-2009 Fri 11:44] View Near Messages
pbr [25453]

It does, not that I`ve seen anywhere near the level of campaign the DPA got overall, which again, is almost a carbon copy of all the other countries that have passed these ridiculous thought crime laws. Sure, plenty of people raged on sites like The Register, but no-one wants to put themselves in the firing line for something the average soccer mum would instantly begin waving their `Burn Paedos` placades for.

Orwell was right, you know: in the future, nothing but mediocrity will remain. I can see it already with real porn, which is why no-one cares about it anymore. They only pick on the exotic stuff because it`s far more likely to get people riled, the way that RapeLay game did for example (despite the fact it`s a pretty crappy game and doesn`t actually feature rape in its strictest sense at all, and certainly nowhere near as brutal as that found in feature films). By exotic stuff, I cite whatever the Neo-Cons deem objectionable, meaning anything new and exciting outside of their incredibly limited life experience.

At any rate, with no way to leave the country open to me, when this law passes, I`ll have no choice but to move my site to The Netherlands (where Rule 34 currently resides), plus use encrypted connections from that point on. What I find funny about all this, is the likes of the IWF do nothing about sites like 12chan, yet can`t wait to leap on me just because I like cute loli characters. It`s no wonder a lot of other people are starting to do the same with their browsing habits (using proxies, TOR, etc.) where any type of porn is concerned now, just in case they are unfairly targeted by overzealous law enforcement.

I`d just like to add that freeworld`s comment hardly helps matters though, and makes a mockery of his supposed stand against totalitarianism. Maybe my hobby just isn`t the right kind of free expression he wants to defend, which in my book makes him a hypocrite. Indeed, I think I just remembered why I never had anything to do with politics or ever bothered voting, because those in charge are all the same at the end of the day... as in, they can`t wait to inflict their own brand of shite on everyone else. Damn, I wish I`d been born 100 years in the future, when more pressing matters than censorship would keep governments busy and leave me free to fap to whatever I bloody well choose.

SasaMisa    [25452.   Posted 12-Jun-2009 Fri 06:43] View Near Messages
Shaun [25451]

Thank you! Of course, it`s clear now that the current `Dangerous Drawings` legislation will sail straight through The Lords without so much as an objection since none of them have any idea the Man in the Moon what they are even criminalising. It won`t be any different from what has already happened in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or the States and will have about the same impact - higher rates of child abuse. You mark my words, it will turn out that way as law enforcement wastes time with irrelevant crimes that have no bearing on society whatsoever (yeah, locking up basement-dwelling otaku, Christopher Handley is really going to protect children in Iowa, isn`t it).

Just like freeworld, they`ve all been duped into thinking real CP & loli are the same thing, as in total evil that apparently spews out of Japan on a daily basis. Seeing that everyone has been bred to hate them because of what they did half a century ago to our old soldiers (I won`t bother to point out what we`ve been guilty of lately in this regard, except to say it was all out war and in war, anything goes), no-one bothers to question any of it either. They just preach their own brand of nastiness in the pursuit of power; the kind of power that, when placed in the hands of self-righteous "moral faggots" as it were, can only corrupt at the end of the day.

Contrary to the lies the media continue to circulate, Germany, America & The Netherlands are still the biggest producers of real child porn anyway. Britain is thankfully low on the list, but Japan is even lower still. Indeed, child abuse is a serious crime over there and police have very high arrest & conviction rates for anyone who is crazy enough to move beyond the realm of fantasy. This is why most people don`t and are quite happy with the miriad of fictional material - yes, even rape simulators like RapeLay - which goes far beyond anything our pathetic tabooist country will ever be able to get its head around.

I know, because I`ve studied the Japanese culture for years, far in excess of a few crappy documentaries on TV or poorly written columns in magazines. Christ, I should have been advised on this new law as there probably isn`t a single person in this country more qualified to be objective on the subject. I`ve seen it from both sides of the fence, which is why I don`t support any of the claims that loli/shota will lead people to commit actual crimes against children. Anyone that goes along with that argument is basically saying that we are so weak-minded that it won`t take more than a nudge to turn us into monsters. To that, I would have to say go look at yourself in the mirror and then tell me you`re morally superior, something I very much doubt many would be able to do.

As an aside, these hypocrites don`t include violence, guro, scat, and a whole host of other things I personally find unpalatable and which are far more likely to upset people (like someone being older in a drawing really makes a difference). Indeed, I don`t see anyone racing to ban any of those in hentai, instead preferring to play the `child protection` ace in the hole to get their foot in the door with nothing short of blatant censorship, which I thought the members of this site were supposed to be against.

SasaMisa    [25450.   Posted 12-Jun-2009 Fri 05:17] View Near Messages
freeworld [25447]

Er, and just what evidence would that be? The massive rates of child abuse in Japan because of the abundance of purely fictional lolicon material... oh wait, they don`t exist, do they, so you clearly have no idea what you`re bloody talking about. In fact, I`m utterly surprised to hear someone on this forum actually mimicking the likes of Zoe Hilton. Next, you`ll be claiming my artist friends worldwide are all child molestors in the making and that we need to be `converted` to icky adult porn by use of a plethysmograph.

Your attitude, along with the children`s charities and no end of rabid feminists, religious zealots, and clueless censorship advocates (who the media & politicians simply paraphrase, I might add), is precisely why I`ve given up arguing about the subject. It seems to me that so called campaigners against current legislation are just as hypocritical as the ones that made it in the first place. You stand up for your little fetishes while pouring scorn on someone else`s at the same time, just because you don`t approve of it. Brian Rothery is damn right that people have a basic need to hate other people, regardless of what they believe in and I`m sick of it!

For the record, neither prostitution, BDSM, or real porn are of any relevance to me and I couldn`t care less if they ban them or not. The difference between us is that I consider myself a proper egalitarian and wouldn`t criminalise anyone for any reason, not unless there is clear evidence of harm. Simply quoting bogus statistics and making spurious claims isn`t evidence, just as tagging `terrorism` or `paedophilia` on the end of something doesn`t automatically make it bad, evil, or wrong. You can say what you like about loli artwork, but NO-ONE is harmed in its production and I`ll see you in Hell before I ever give it up.

SasaMisa    [25082.   Posted 26-Mar-2009 Thu 11:53] View Near Messages
They don`t appear to be wasting any time with the Coroners and Injustice Bill do they? I mean, it`s already on its first reading in the Lords. At this rate, I can see myself being a new resident of Her Majesty`s Prison Service before the decade is out - `Her Majesty` of course referring to either of the three harridans behind the current wave of anti-male sentiment in government, rather than Queen Elizabeth. Indeed, she will merely serve as a puppet while passing this piece of flotsum into the Statute Books, for mass abuse by a police force and criminal courts that have utterly failed where real crime is concerned.

Well, at least an organisation with some sense has moved to oppose the DDB part of it anyway, not that I see anyone standing up for hentai in general at the moment. In fact, it just looks like they are worried about fringe material, which has little or no chance of being targeted. No, it`s obvious where the police`s attention will be focused: on people like me, with huge collections of manga/dojinshi. It`s xenophobia against Japan and anything Japanese yet again, just like we had to put up with in the early 90s when anime first hit the shelves.

Hmm, and it occurs to me that the NSPCC isn`t just talking bollox, but is probably lumping in everything it doesn`t approve of, including drawings now. That said, even if you did include everything posted on 4chan, HongFire, WWOEC, Rule 34, etc., as well as all the real CP, I still doubt it would come to 20,000 new images a week, so I also have no idea where they are getting this figure from. No doubt from their totally perverse minds, that keep on insisting to them that people like me are melting pots of paedophilic intent, just waiting for a chance to grab a real kid off the street and give it a good seeing to... give me a break! (-_-)

SasaMisa    [24958.   Posted 8-Mar-2009 Sun 19:11] View Near Messages
Hahaha... and so bloody true as well! (^_^)

I saw the song clip a while back, but I hadn`t seen these others, so thanks very much for that. Now to add them to my forum, along with everything else I`ve gathered that discredits the nutters.

SasaMisa    [24944.   Posted 7-Mar-2009 Sat 06:21] View Near Messages
Agreed, and after I just asked Surpass to upgrade my server too... oh well! (-_-)

The thing that bothered me most about that piece today though, is the way they keep saying `dirty old man` all the time. It demonstrates just how out of touch people like Maria Eagle really are as most of the loli artists & fans I know are young people. For sure, if you took a sample of those who attend Comiket in Japan on a regular basis, you`d quickly see the demographic lies in the 20-30 range. Looking at Western style sites like WWOEC, Hentai Foundry, etc., it`s no different either.

Yes, I won`t deny both sides of the fence feature predominantly male participants, but that doesn`t mean women don`t draw such things as well as they most certainly do. However, to those in Parliament trying to push through this hateful law, much like with the DPA, these would be inconvenient statistics, therefore they quietly ignored. Ah, and as far as I can tell, few if any of these people ever `escalate` to committing real crimes against children. If they did, Japan would have an army of millions of child molestors attending these conventions, instead of a bunch of harmless college students.

Continuing spouting the `grooming` part while conversely saying the images are `disgusting` is also pathetic, not least because it would seem to be totally contradictory in nature (not to mention subjective and insulting to the artist in question, but we won`t go into matters of taste here). As in, wouldn`t a kid think they were disgusting too, or rather, would they just have a good giggle over them, like most normal kids did back when I was young - also, we didn`t talk to strangers, whatever they were peddling.

Indeed, contrary to these do-gooders appraisal of young people, we weren`t stupid. I mean, you`d have to be about the most retard kid on Earth to believe an image of Bart & Lisa at it is representative of normal behaviour, let alone want to copy it, making artwork a pretty weak way of grooming anybody in my opinion (unless, like me, you happen to be interested in hentai artwork). Undoubtedly, you`d have better luck with money, sweets, toys, video games, etc., yet I don`t see the government rushing to ban those as a possible means to coerce kids into underage sex.

Maria Eagle fails miserably with her rhetoric either way, even completely ignoring what the IWF said. It`s just a fact that most loli isn`t even located on UK servers, so this law will be totally impotent in the long run. No-one outside of our crummy little island will stop producing it and no sites will be taken down. It`s also totally impractical for the IWF to block everything that may or may not have such images, such as DeviantArt, because like with Wiki and the notorious Scorpians album `Virgin Killer`, it features material that has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject they want to supposedly eliminate.

All it will do is have anyone involved in saucy artwork in this country running scared, just like they did in the States when The Protect Act came into force. No, as there will never be a practical way of policing the Internet, which is truly what they are hoping for in the future, it won`t result in abuse of real kids being abated either since the common cause will remain - i.e. those in positions of responsibility preying on vulnerable people close to them, such as those within the family.

SasaMisa    [24893.   Posted 26-Feb-2009 Thu 16:16] View Near Messages
Thinking more about it, the NSPCC not only didn`t have the courtesy to answer Miss Willott`s question in person, they didn`t provide any evidence either. All they did was quote from the answer they gave to the consultation, which as you said earlier, pbr, is pure fiction.

I don`t know about sculptures per se (an artist I knew once did a bust of Lisa in clay looking a bit fruity, does that count?), but I`m sure when the likes of Keith Vaz find out about Love Dolls (Dutch Wives to us), that loophole will also doubtlessly be closed too:-

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/02/12/dutch-wife-sex-doll-gallery/

Seriously, I used to joke how religious types would ever come to terms with the Holodeck from Star Trek, or Better Than Life technology from Red Dwarf even, when they can`t even get their heads around nudey drawings of cartoon characters at it. Even Futurama lampooned such attitudes in `I Dated A Robot`, the sort of ground Japan seems to have far less trouble crossing than us, with our obsessive adherence to tribal god images and their ridiculous ideals of "one man; one women; missionary position sex for procreation".

At any rate, I would have died of boredom long ago if I`d had to follow the dull-witted propanganda they spew on a daily basis, and like in Blackadder, I truly hope I end up down below instead as it sounds a `hell` of a lot more fun. Heh, particularly if Jessica Lovejoy is there waiting for me with an endless supply of KY. (^_^;)

SasaMisa    [24891.   Posted 26-Feb-2009 Thu 15:35] View Near Messages
I remember reading some of this at the Consulation Stage, even sending emails to some of them telling them to quit generalising about something they know nothing about. For sure, everybody I know who`s into lolicon, both artists & fans alike, categorically denies having any interest whatsoever in real child porn. Therefore, their reasoning is not only horribly flawed, but incredibly insulting as well.

Silly or not though, the fact that a bunch of crappy charities more concerned with fantasy than reality have got this far, plus that every country in the Western world has managed to push the same kind of laws through, tells me this isn`t going to go away any time soon. I mean, it`s there plain as day in their reply, that even mere thoughts are unacceptable and a crime now and should be punished as if you had abused a real kid.

With my interest in such artwork, I see this all the time and it`s definitely getting worse. Just the other day on Hentai Foundry, some idiot started having a go at an artist I like, just because he drew a sexy image of Deedee from Dextor`s Laboratory, in spite of the fact she looks ridiculously disproportionate. He was quickly put in his place, but the arguments continue to go on nethertheless. Ultimately, I can envision loli artwork being wiped out in the West, relegated to private boards (and the Far East of course), with even mildly titilating material being banned, like it so often is off sites like Deviant Art.

SasaMisa    [24865.   Posted 23-Feb-2009 Mon 11:25] View Near Messages
That news is indeed welcome - maybe I won`t need to take the red pill at the end of the year now, and Lisa & I can live happily ever after and have lots of yellow pointy-haired babies. (^_^;)

I seem to recall mentioning a while back though, that most English-speaking countries have similarly vague laws regarding `virtual child porn`. The fact that so few people have been prosecuted under them, and even then, only when they have the real thing as well, clearly shows they are all nothing more than thought crime laws. They are designed purely to instill fear so people cease their supposedly abhorant activities on their own.

No end of sites began banning loli material when the Protect Act came into force in 2003, which replaced the Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996, despite the fact that it doesn`t actually criminalise the aforementioned material. Not unless it can be proven to either resemble the real thing or fail the Miller Test outright on obscenity grounds, which I doubt very many pornographic cartoons would at the end of the day. Even so, my own site has seen no end of people simply disappear, afraid that they are being watched.

Quite simply, there is no practical way to police such laws at present, and there may never be. Yes, you will get the occasional retarded judge, who thinks Simpsons porn is the real thing, but most law enforcement agencies have more serious crimes to deal with. Just like many failed attempts to stop P2P, if this weren`t the case, given the sheer amount of anime/toon porn on the Internet, millions of people would have arrested so far and now all be on the various sex offenders registers spread around the globe. The website owners would have had it the hardest though, ultimately being compared to peddlars of real child porn and thus suffering the exact same penalties in eyes of the courts, which in itself is a damn scary thought and one I hope never comes to pass in the remainder of my lifetime.

SasaMisa    [24853.   Posted 22-Feb-2009 Sun 08:14] View Near Messages
DarkAngel5 [24845]
Nice video, and very well presented - I`ll be sure to add it to my own forum later on tomorrow.

Here`s hoping it results in more people getting involved anyway, or at the very least, being aware that there is a serious problem with this new law.

SasaMisa    [24837.   Posted 20-Feb-2009 Fri 05:48] View Near Messages
It was one of the women from the REA that said the DPA didn`t go far enough, wasn`t it, to the point where she said ALL porn should be banned!

emark [24825]
Back in both 2001 & 2005, almost a mirror image of each other in fact, my area was Labour by a massive majority:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/mpdb/html/242.stm

Laughably though, John Austin seems more interested in taking free trips abroad than standing up for real human rights issues (I never even got a reply from him about the DDA). The fact that he`s planning to step down before the next election probably says something about his chances of winning as well.

pbr [24828]
Indeed, I noticed this argument used a lot by the individual police forces around the country (with the exception of the Metropolitan Police - they have better things to do, like catching real crooks), despite them admitting in the next breath there was no actual evidence to back their grandiose claims up. These guys must be real wizards in court. No wonder violent crime is so out of control in this bloody country.

SasaMisa    [24824.   Posted 18-Feb-2009 Wed 18:45] View Near Messages
pbr [24819]
It`s quite refreshing to actually have a woman standing up for our right to be different, isn`t it, rather than the Liz Longhurst types of this world, who seem to think that makes us all inherently evil. Maybe this Jenny Willott is secretly a fan of lolicon too, like the group of female artists who originally started Comiket in Japan during the mid 70s. (^_^;)

Serious though, I was looking at some 2012 `Death is coming!` websites the other day, and given the prevalence of thought crime that pervades The Bible, it`s not difficult really to see who is pushing for all these insane new laws. The way I figure it, after viewing Lisa as I`ve never seen her before today, thanks to an artist called Apostle (what irony, eh?), I figure I`m already going to Hell, so why deny my interest in such things.

I mean, they`re thinking of releasing the Yorkshire Ripper according to a report I read this morning, despite the fact he`s only done about 2-3 years for every woman he brutally murdered. Yet, we`re threatened with pretty much the same for fapping to images of fictional girls. Where exactly is the logic in that, let alone justice!?

PrisonUK [24818]
I`m apparently 70% liberal (I think the rich should be taxed more; there should be a realistic minimum wage; but don`t support the ownership of guns) according to his test. Even so, he does raise some very good points, so thank you very much for putting up the webpage link there.

For the record, seeing as there`s a lot of talk on here about whether the Conservatives would have been as bad, I`ve never voted even once during my entire adult life because politics seemed so irrelevant to me. However, even I can see that the only way to get rid of Zanu Labour is to vote the Tories in. As they say, "a change is as good as a rest," which we could definitely do with in regards to the former.

SasaMisa    [24797.   Posted 15-Feb-2009 Sun 20:58] View Near Messages
Yeah, I saw this one a few weeks or so back myself, in connection with rates of child abuse worldwide. Basically, users of 2channel, the biggest image board in the world, brought together a load of statistics to prove that loli reduces crime, rather than the other way around:-

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/12/16/japan-lags-in-loli-ban-unicef-lies-exposed/

You`ll notice that again, all the English speaking countries are way further up the list than Japan, which tells me that crazy censorship laws simply don`t work where porn is concerned.

SasaMisa    [24778.   Posted 13-Feb-2009 Fri 06:33] View Near Messages
Oh well, I guess I won`t be importing any more new dojinshi then. Someone else already pointed out that sales of encryption software are rising - proxies will probably become the norm from now on too.

emark [24775]
Some guy in Japan recently made the claim that he wanted to marry his favourite anime character, you know. Using that analogy, if I took a cardboard cutout version of Lisa into court, made from one of Jimmy`s sketches, maybe I`ll get away with any child porn charges they bring against me by claiming she`s my wife and consented to everything.

IanG [24771]
That`s precisely why that consultation thing was only sent out to organisations they knew would agree with them. Much the same as with these committees: all hand-picked stooges who don`t even comprehend what they are trying to ban. If people like us, who actually know about the genre and what it entails, were involved, the law would have been ripped to pieces in no short order and never even got this far.

SasaMisa    [24769.   Posted 12-Feb-2009 Thu 17:50] View Near Messages
I resent that remark equally as much as when the politicians & newsapers use it. Lolicon is no different from any other form of hentai, in that it can range from extremely beautiful to extremely nasty. It`s precisely this fact that makes the obscenity laws worthless as who`s to say where the line must be drawn!?

Moreover, a lot of loli material, plus a lot of toon material these days, tends to be extremely artistic. Simply classifying it all as filth is not only an insult to the original artist, but implies all of it is merely fap material, which a good majority of it isn`t. That classification is way too subjective anyway, since one person`s turn on is another person`s turn off.

Either way, a two decade study in Japan has already proved that pornography reduces sex crime, so their arguments are all baseless and out of date. Oh, I know it won`t affect the outcome because the people involved are too old and too inflexible to even consider the possibility that the Internet might actually be doing some good for society.

They just see Bart & Lisa at it, two innocent little kiddywinks doing something they shouldn`t in their eyes, rather than cartoon characters, and immediately summon the Paedofinder General.

SasaMisa    [24759.   Posted 12-Feb-2009 Thu 10:12] View Near Messages
Indeed, and expanding further on what I already wrote, I don`t just think it`s a bad game because of the content, but because it gets old way too quickly, like a lot of Illusion Soft`s games. Beyond the intitial shock value, I doubt many people will keep playing it either, much the same as with all the thoroughly boring hentai games dating back to the early 80s.

Call me a softy as well, but I actually preferred Biko 3 out of everything in their entire catalogue for two main reasons. One is you have to do stuff to get the girl of your choice (it`s kind of atmospheric trailing Rin through the park at night or Mio in the rain, and Mayu is just too cute in her waitress outfit); and the other is that you can opt for a totally concensual ending, something few if any of the others offer.

SasaMisa    [24755.   Posted 12-Feb-2009 Thu 07:41] View Near Messages
I see that RapeLay article caused a similar furore to the one I observed over on American sites when it first came out. To be honest, it isn`t even that good really, yet everyone jumps on the moral panic bandwagon thinking it`s Night Trap all over again (which was also a pretty crappy game as I recall).

This merely demonstrates how out of touch the average person is, with the infinite diversity of the many cultures present in this world. I mean, if it weren`t for the Internet, I daresay most of these mostly militant feminist & religious zealots would happily continue to live on in their blissfully ignorant world - too bad!

SasaMisa    [24750.   Posted 12-Feb-2009 Thu 04:25] View Near Messages
Heh, they must have hated games like Creatures on the C64 then, but were thankfully powerless to do much about them. I know in a recent presentation, Rob Hubbard said he left for the States in the late 80s because of the increased opportunities there, which pretty much put an end to the golden age of 8-bit computer music.

On reflection, I wish I had done the same thing 10 years ago, only it would have been Japan rather than the US as I was seriously into the language & culture back then. Nowadays, I`m simply too ill and only really have time for hentai, the last of my guilty pleasures and one this government also seems determined to ban.

SasaMisa    [24741.   Posted 11-Feb-2009 Wed 06:04] View Near Messages
pbr [24736]
Well, at least someone brought it up, not that I see anything coming of it at the end of the day. Much the same as in Canada, Australia & New Zealand, this will sail through without any changes whatsoever. Of course it would help if people actually said what they meant, instead of using legal trickery all the time. Indeed, political types are all alike, in that they talk much, but say little.

The only reason The Protect Act is being overturned again and again in the States is because it clearly violates The First Amendment. Unfortunately for us in Britain, free speech in the form of Article 10 is still way too much, as Jackboots Straw seems to think, a privilege and not a fundamental right, and thus hardly ever adhered to the way it should be.

SasaMisa    [24691.   Posted 8-Feb-2009 Sun 12:27] View Near Messages
sergio [24689]
One reason why I`ve never bothered with so called "officially released anime", in particular, adult titles. I mean, they totally screwed up Gatchaman 20 years back, giving us the horrendous Battle of the Planets instead; gave us a weird mix of 5 films in 1 for Urotsukidoji to neatly avoid all the really juicy bits; and delayed Sailor Moon for so long, it was dead and buried in Japan before we even saw the first episode.

From what you cite here, I can see the trend hasn`t been slowed either, with the `moral panics of the age` continuing to influence the do-gooders into ruining things for everyone else. You know, I was wondering earlier on why it is that such a tiny group of unelected nobodies always seem to get their own way, while everyone else is made to suffer for it.

In any case, so long as the BBFC continue to rely upon a law that is almost 50 years out of date, people like us will continue to search elsewhere for our entertainment. For sure, this is why they fear the Internet so much now, made even more pertinent by the fact that they have so little control over it. It gives us the freedom to make our own decisions about things and they bloody well hate that.

SasaMisa    [24683.   Posted 7-Feb-2009 Sat 19:52] View Near Messages
IanG [24674]
Well, considering Jackboots Straw once said violent crime was our fault for owning things, I don`t think fairness is or has ever been part of NL`s philosophy. Despite all the promises - enough to even get my disabled mum out to vote at the time - very little has changed for the better so far as every day life is concerned. In fact, walking to the Post Office on Friday, I was dismayed at how crummy things still are where I live. Except for the newer cars, you`d think you were still living in the 80s.

No, my respect for NL disappeared when the celebrations carried on for months after, with them making no attempt whatsoever to help the downtrodden workers: the very people who created the damn party in the first place! When they finally got their finger out, the first thing they did was penalise the old, sick & disabled, simply because they represented no real threat to them. When criticised for it, they simply passed the buck, claiming they were old Tory policies that were already in the pipeline. After that move, you can be sure neither my mum nor I supported them any longer.

Anyhow, reading the conclusions some of you have drawn, especially axis45, the future does indeed look bleak. Even if they do get voted out of office next year, everything will be in such a mess (much like it is in the States), it might already be too late to fix things. I was scared as hell back in 1990 when the Gulf War broke out as I was working for the MOD and could well have been called up. The very real threat of society decending into chaos though, makes that incident appear quite trivial now. Even so, for all our sakes, I hope you`re wrong.

SasaMisa    [24656.   Posted 5-Feb-2009 Thu 16:27] View Near Messages
IanG [24651]
I couldn`t have put it better myself, you know. Sadly, after everything I`ve read on the various sites linked to here, I really don`t see things getting any better for a long while yet. Any change will undoubtedly have to come from the youth currently being persecuted by this oppressive regime, who will one day remember being told everything was supposedly bad for them, only to discover it actually wasn`t.

Oh well, I`ve got a couple of tickets for the Euro Lottery this week. You never know... I might just get lucky and be able to finally get away from this rapidly sinking craparama they call government.

SasaMisa    [24638.   Posted 4-Feb-2009 Wed 06:11] View Near Messages
Wasn`t there a story in the news years back about Eton kids hanging themselves for sexual kicks, with one of them getting killed in the process? I mean, come on, it`s common knowledge that loads of political types come from that background, so why are they all so opposed to extreme porn nowadays!?

SasaMisa    [24624.   Posted 3-Feb-2009 Tue 06:00] View Near Messages
Well, I can understand their reasoning myself. When the Protect Act came about in the States, a lot of hentai sites began purging their lolicon material for fear of being the first ones in the dock. People are scared, and unlike myself, probably have a lot more to lose if it should come down to jail time.

Even if it doesn`t, they will be tagged by society, which will undoubtedly ruin their lives anyway. That despicable Operation Ore business for example, led to no end of suicides; all because the loonies in positions of power require a scapegoat to offset their own inner demons. Indeed, Freud would be inundated with patients if he were still around today, with the likes of Martin Salter at the head of the queue.

SasaMisa    [24617.   Posted 2-Feb-2009 Mon 16:28] View Near Messages
Spiderschwein [24613]
Porky Prescott actually visited Thamesmead after the first election, you know, promising that poor housing conditions would be sorted out and no more high-rises would be built. Last year, when I was still able to walk down to the local shopping centre, what do I see, but more high-rises being built. To tell the truth, I thought it was a new prison first of all, they looked that much like cell blocks.

Undoubtedly, they are for all the immigrants our local housing association has been bribed to take on. To think, my mum had to die before they would give me the hovel I`m stuck in now; even then, only after I could prove with documentation how long I had been living with her. Of course, once that DDA comes into force, I`m probably going to end up in a different kind of cell because I`m not giving up my anime/toon porn for anyone!

freeworld [24614]
I don`t know about the 30s, but they seem hell bent on applying them now. The really frightening part though, is that they actually have supporters from some of the sites I`ve been perusing from here. Yeah, the kind, like one of my aunts, who think they are right and you are wrong, regardless of the overwelming evidence against them. Their utter inability to approach certain subjects like a rational human being makes a mockery of all we`ve achieved and I believe they won`t be satisfied until we`re firmly entrenched in The Dark Ages once again, worshipping tribal god images.

Spiderschwein [24616]
Well, we do need some kind of population control, but without the co-operation of all the Third World countries (which are growing faster than all the industrialised nations put together), nothing we do will make that much of a difference. I mean, it isn`t just about being able to pay for your children, but the fact that they are using up more of the limited resources we have.

Saying that, the solution to the problem is right above us: The Moon, Mars, even The Asteroid Belt contain more minerals than a thousand populations could use. However, America would much rather bomb sovereign nations back into The Stone Age than sanction any kind of worldwide plan to save humanity, so afraid are they of losing control.

SasaMisa    [24612.   Posted 2-Feb-2009 Mon 06:08] View Near Messages
Hmm, I suppose that`s the one good thing about where I live... if you can call it a good thing, that is. What I mean, is that crime is so high in Southeast London, especially on the sink estate I`m stuck in, the Police probably won`t have the manpower to deal with cases of `unacceptable sexual behaviour` anyway, whatever the supposed cause.

I kid you not, an Asda delivery driver got attacked in broad daylight last month and had his van wrecked by yobs. For sure, I`ve seen no change whatsoever here since `Jackboots` Straw came out with his now tired old mantra of `Tough on crime. Tough on the causes of crime.` (and seriously, you`d have to be Charles Bronson to go with his other bright idea of approaching the little bastards, like he reckons he does).

Just to put things in perspective as well, they actually CLOSED a couple of police stations in my area after Labour got in, resulting in much longer response times. Ah, that`s assuming they even turn up at all. Indeed, beat coppers are like an endangered species around here, too afraid to walk about in the evening when the gangs are out in force.

You sometimes see these kids wandering the streets in the middle of the night too, being a bloody nuisance, yet no-one ever does anything about it. Never mind idiotic laws to protect them from supposed `pervert anime fans` like me: what about decent laws to protect me from them!

SasaMisa    [24598.   Posted 31-Jan-2009 Sat 00:00] View Near Messages
Given all the laws lately are targeting people with supposedly `deviant sexual interests`, it seems to me that the Government, intentionally or not, is creating a public divide. What they don`t seem to understand is that it`s ultimately self-defeating, particularly when you take into account Freud`s impressive work on the subject of human sexuality.

Sadly, I`ve seen this coming now for a long time, from the rise of militant feminism & political correctness to the fall of saucy postcards & the Carry On films. Nowadays, you can`t even admire a female`s beauty without instantly being considered a pervert or a sexual predator. Despite more information being available than ever before, we have actually regressed to a time when ignorance reigned supreme.

I`m not sure if it will get as bad as `Escape From L.A.`, where everything is illegal unless officially sanctioned, but it`s going to cause a lot of unnecessary problems either way. Personally, I think it`s an attempt to divert our attention away from the real issues, like overpopulation, rapidly depleting oil reserves, and global warming, which none of the governments worldwide have done anything to solve.

SasaMisa    [24587.   Posted 30-Jan-2009 Fri 04:16] View Near Messages
There`s another troll (Cauchy Riemann) causing trouble on this website, comparing people who view extreme porn to paedophiles:-

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Jail-for-downloading-39extreme39-sex.4888459.jp

Given the way he writes, it probably isn`t the same person though. Indeed, this new hate site could have any number of different people involved in its creation.

Either way, their claims are clearly ridiculous, especially from the standpoint of online technology. I don`t use BitTorrent myself, but from what I`ve been told, most of it is encrypted now to prevent nosey ISPs from spying on what you are downloading (this is all quite apart from the fact that image boards will probably have more of this stuff than anywhere else anyway). That doesn`t mean people are downloading seriously illegal material, more that they are scared they will be singled out for something that has become all too commonplace, plain old multimedia filesharing.

In addition, IP tracing is a notoriously unreliable way to locate people simply because too many end up having the same one. This also doesn`t take into account proxy servers, nor remote locations such as cybercafes or libraries. For sure, if it were that easy, I think the police would have swooped on a lot more people over the years, particularly when backed by a totally paranoid music/movie business, who believe piracy is depriving them of another billion dollars in profit.

SasaMisa    [24579.   Posted 29-Jan-2009 Thu 18:19] View Near Messages
KingBilly [24576]
Oh, he`s back again everybody!

Seriously, if I`m an idiot, how come you can`t spell `berk` properly? Also, I really don`t care what they do with TV anymore, as it`s an obsolete format for me and has been for years now.

SasaMisa    [24573.   Posted 29-Jan-2009 Thu 13:12] View Near Messages
freeworld [24559]
My apologies to you and everyone else for confusing the issue a bit here earlier. I should have stated more clearly that I was referring to the DDB and not the DPA. I probably should have picked a more mainstream title than `Kodomo no Jikan` as well, since it`s unlikely anything as fun as this would ever be released over here anyway. For sure, it took them 10 years to air Sailor Moon on our screens, long after Japan had stopped caring.

That aside, based upon the ratification of its predecessor, would anyone like to hazard a guess as to (assuming they do get this next piece of trash all the way through), how long it will take roughly? According to the following schedule someone else just sent me, there do seem to be an awful lot of stages overall:-

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2008-09/coronersandjustice.html

SasaMisa    [24556.   Posted 29-Jan-2009 Thu 04:23] View Near Messages
freeworld [24554]
Heh, you obviously haven`t seen the latest volume of `Kodomo no Jikan`, have you? Okay, it`s not quite Comic LO (just about the most popular adult loli anthology ever published now, at 59 issues), but a lot of the scenes do include nudity, pretend oral, masturbation, etc., despite it NOT being an adult title per se.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/21/kodomo-no-jikan-not-extreme-loli-manga/

Also, as Dave says, the law says nothing about it having to be realistic (much like the badly worded Protect Act in the States), meaning any vindictive cop, NGO, judge, etc. could use it to apply to anything they want it to. It`s precisely this sort of crap that got that guy in Australia convicted for looking at mere Simpsons porn.

SasaMisa    [24553.   Posted 29-Jan-2009 Thu 01:47] View Near Messages
ovlies [24552]
The site they (sort of) link to is pretty in your face about it as well. Hopefully, it won`t be the last either. (^_^)

http://www.comicshopvoice.co.uk/

SasaMisa    [24551.   Posted 29-Jan-2009 Thu 00:12] View Near Messages
phantom [24543]
Well, Christmas in its original, non-commercialised form died a long time ago anyway (one reason I don`t bother with it anymore - I mean, you can eat & drink too much whenever you want, so why do you need an excuse), but I suppose that`s a debate for another forum.

MichaelG [24550]
The way I see it, if he keeps this up, he`ll either be ousted by his own party or carted away by men in white coats, just like The Joker was countless times in Batman.

SasaMisa    [24542.   Posted 28-Jan-2009 Wed 00:27] View Near Messages
MichaelG [24541]
It makes you wish Oliver Cromwell would come back from the dead and close Parliament down, doesn`t it. For sure, he oversaw it until his death because he knew how corrupt politicians could be.

Mohamed Al Fayed once said 50% of them were on the take and I agree. I mean, just how many of them would do what they claim is "for the good of the people" if you took away their cushy lifestyles... not many, I wager!

SasaMisa    [24540.   Posted 27-Jan-2009 Tue 23:33] View Near Messages
KingBilly [24537]
Obvious troll is obvious and all that...

In direct rebuttal to some of his statements though, hardcore porn is available on certain channels late at night as far as I know, not that I`ve watched TV for over 5 years now myself. Like with most things in modern life, I just got fed up with someone else deciding what, when & where I should enjoy my entertainment.

Next, the question of acceptability in this day and age is far too subjective to be of any real value anymore. The Internet is a global community, one which has certainly opened my eyes over the years to things way outside of our limited cultural base. Of course, any sort of radical thinking is a crime now apparently, which I suppose makes about 90% of the Internet unacceptable anyway.

Finally, the business in Africa was exactly the point being debated on Sankaku Complex`s site, the fact that UNICEF seem far more interested in saving imaginary lolis in Japan than helping the poor, starving ophans in the developing world:-

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/tag/unicef/

SasaMisa    [24536.   Posted 27-Jan-2009 Tue 13:43] View Near Messages
pbr [24532]
Oh, I totally agree with you. It wasn`t my intention to put you down, merely to cite a few things that I`ve come across over the years while running my own hentai website (I doubt any of the regulars on here agree with censorship, whatever the topic, otherwise they wouldn`t be here).

Someone on my forum actually said the exact same thing last night too: that the legal age of consent should be right across the board for everything. A lot of people think it should be lower too, like around 13-15, as in many European countries. The only real issue then is whether or not anyone is being abused, not some arbitrary figure.

Heh, and inappropriate attitudes, eh? You show me a real girl who dresses, speaks, looks, acts, and is as throughly endearing & intelligent as Lisa, and I`ll elope with her tomorrow, whatever the poxy law says. (^_^;)

SasaMisa    [24531.   Posted 27-Jan-2009 Tue 12:53] View Near Messages
pbr [24528]
It`s a little better from the standpoint of the age of consent in Canada perhaps, but they still criminalise entirely fictitious material, even when there is no real child abuse or child pornography involved at all (for example, Simpsons lemons). One of my biggest site contributors from there always laughs it off, saying their government has better things to do, but people have been done over it all the same.

Australia is seriously fucked up now, especially after the recent `Bart & Lisa are real people` cartoon porn fiasco. One artist I knew over there once had their Gestapo police in looking for loli games, but had to let him go when they only found toon porn (his own work, no less). So, what did they do - they changed the law so they could bust people like him in the future, though I`ll probably never know now if anything such as that did end up happening to him as well.

I also used to know another artist in New Zealand, who drew really artistic anime versions of Simpsons characters in erotic poses. However, undoutedly because of a parlimentary attack on a bookstore owner for carrying books analysing the child pornography witch hunt all over the English-speaking world, he grew more and more scared of persecution. He`s since dropped out of sight and no-one has heard from him.

Other countries aside, I`m just worried the same thing is going to happen here. I mean, I had a visit from the police back in 2005 because some fat painter allegedly took offence at the anime artwork I have in my living room. Okay, they weren`t nasty about it and said they were just following up on an anonymous tipoff. I think the lifesize Pretty Samy poster I used to have and the Lisa Simpson stuff all over the place pretty much convinced them I wasn`t into the real thing. They left without so much as a scribble in their notebooks in fact.

Even so, that has to be on file somewhere. For sure, what`s to stop them from paying me another visit once the law is changed and busting me for my, according to the CEOP anyway, `perverted interests`, plus labelling me as being a potential risk to real children. It won`t matter to them that I have no interest whatsoever in such things: the way I`ve mooned over 2D girls for the last 25 years will convict me without saying a word.

SasaMisa    [24526.   Posted 27-Jan-2009 Tue 05:46] View Near Messages
pbr [24514]
Just 3 MPs debating the `child` part of the DPA, you say? To think I wrote to mine about it last week as well, although I`m hardly surprised no-one actively opposed it. In fact, I`m pretty sure most of them are so out of touch with the world I take for granted nowadays, they probably don`t even know what they are legislating against!

By the way, Canada, Australia & New Zealand have the same crazy laws already, with only the US running into trouble over theirs on account of the ACLU. Therefore, them wanting to ban fan-fiction next is no different from any of the above, where it`s even illegal to be a paedophile now (as in, have `any` inappropriate thoughts about children).

spoonbender [24525]
That`s it, I definitely want to move to Spain! If only my grandad were still alive - he loved the place and could have told me more about it.

SasaMisa    [24488.   Posted 25-Jan-2009 Sun 09:10] View Near Messages
Heh, I put a link up on my forum to the page with all those images. My favourite is the `Community Image Compliancy Officers` one (irony is always funny where the Government is concerned) - great stuff!

That aside, I`ve been working on a page similar to the one on `backlash` and after getting a reply from the editor of `Inquistion 21st century` as well yesterday (I gave him my take on things basically), I felt encouraged to finish it off properly. Feel free to read it if you want and let me know what you think:-

http://www.sasamisa.co.uk/msrus/rants.php?rant=loli

SasaMisa    [24482.   Posted 25-Jan-2009 Sun 05:33] View Near Messages
It sounds to me like it`s time for a vote of no confidence, isn`t it?

[24480]
You know, if this were Japan, you`d have no trouble finding what you want as such things are readily available for both sexes. This is very interesting actually, especially given that feminists in Britain would be very quick to say women over there are second class citizens... not in regards in sexy magazines, they aren`t!

I remember years back, a female author of erotic novels was turned away by WHSmith, claiming it would damage their image (presummably, top-shelf magazines don`t, so go figure). Similarly, when The Daily Mirror once tried to have a section for hunky guys, it wasn`t long before certain men began to complain (not about the girly pages though, natually). So much for sexual equality.

SasaMisa    [24461.   Posted 23-Jan-2009 Fri 12:43] View Near Messages
IanG & MichaelG

I wholeheartedly agree with both of you. Those comments about the Internet are clearly along the same lines that the American COPA law was back in 1998, and we all know now what The Supreme Court did with that this week (presummably used it as spare bog paper afterwards).

Hmm, I wonder what they would make of my Lisa Simpson fetish - seriously, I`ve got dozens of commissioned images of her here, all for my own personal amusement. (^_^)

SasaMisa    [24454.   Posted 22-Jan-2009 Thu 04:13] View Near Messages
Dave

The piece halfway down your Criminalising Anime page is still linked to it (that`s how I`ve been getting to it anyway), but here`s the direct link:-

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/19/evil_cartoon_badness/

SasaMisa    [24447.   Posted 21-Jan-2009 Wed 16:32] View Near Messages
[24445]
Thanks, I do that - in fact, as I said to another mate of mine, this could well end up being the first time I`ve ever voted in my entire life!

[24446]
Just for the record, I want to make it clear that I`m not against criminalising the `real` thing (although there is already more than enough legislation for that anyway, in my opinion, so why this new lot exactly!?), only the purely artwork side of things.

Sure, even after 25 years now, I still find quite a bit of anime/toon porn quite disturbing at times (mostly funny though - I mean, seriously, Rule 34 is a laugh a minute), but that doesn`t mean I`d ever deprive artists or fans of those genres/fetishes.

SasaMisa    [24444.   Posted 21-Jan-2009 Wed 13:49] View Near Messages
Ever since I emailed Dave about this `Dangerous Pictures of Children Bill` last year, I`ve been decidedly worried how far the Government would take it. For sure, it`s not just the Orwellian side of things (which certainly looks to be their overall goal), but that any democratic society in the 21st Century would actually dare countenance a law that censors mere thought because that`s what it boils down to.

You know, I used to joke on my own hentai site that this could never happen; that it would be like putting a life-sized cardboard cutout of Lisa Simpson in the dock and getting her to testify that you sexual abused her. How utterly naive I was since a string of absurd cases have since surfaced all over the world, where police apparently have nothing better to do than turn ordinary decent people into criminals.

Indeed, this madness is going on among all the industrialised nations, with only Japan choosing to ignore the anti-porn bigots. Unfortunately, I`m in no position to emigrate there and probably never will be. Spain seems like a viable second alternative, but even if I sold everything I own and somehow managed to get a job there, it`s doubtful I could manage it, especially in my present poor state of health.

That aside, I`m just wondering what we can do about this? I mean, I`ve put up quite a sizeable article on The Register (it`s near the bottom if anyone is interested), plus I`m about to write a letter to my MP online, at least calling for a debate on this. Heh, in an uncharacteristic show of political support, I`m even considering going up to London on Sunday to lobby for the overturning of this other stupid censorship law.

Okay, I`m not really into the BDSM scene, but if that one goes through, this latest cut & paste effort is not only going to take my site away from me, but my 2D girls as well. Yeah, I bet the IWF are just waiting to block all the anime/toon porn sites, with mass arrests of previously visited `deviants` like myself being not far behind.

 


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